Guest Enzo Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 you guys might have seen the vid in the news blog of the Jam GLanza vs Boss evo. its in the side bar of the blog.ive been watching it a bit recently and im amazed at this car. its cracked a 1.02 around Tsukubanow i have a cusin that stays in osaka. and he has agreed to decipher the text, and dialect.he sent me this email of the spec from in the video here JAM RACING STARLETEngine ______1500 completeHighcam ____JamTurbine______Normal CT9( High-flow )Intercooler __Jam front-mount kitMission______NormalClutch ______AP twinLSD ________TRD 15WAYFinal 4.3Damper___TRDSpring_____TRD Front: 14kg Rear: 12kgBrake_____Front: WILWOOD 4POTPad Front: WILWOOD Rear: JamRCWILWOOD Brake balancerTyre______YH A048  F225/ 45R16 R215 / 50R16Car Weight______848kg   Horse power______250 now with that same power and setup it did a 1.02.886 seconds around Japans Tsukuba circuit.food for thought here are some times of stock cars for comparision. it would put it next to this little lotNismo Skyline GT-R Z Tune 1 min 01.150 secs Ferrari 360 Challenge Stra' 1 min 02.440 secsJam Glanza 5e hybrid ct9 1 min 0.2.886 secs Lamborghini Gallardo 1 min 03.605 secs Honda NSX-R 1 min 03.920 secs McLaren F1 1 min 04.620 secs Porsche 997 Turbo 1 min 04.730 secs Murcielago 1 min 04.760 secs Z-Tune 1 min 05.100 secs*(diff day diff driver) EVO IX RS 1 min 05.528 secs 997 Carrera 4 1 min 05.980 secs Corvette Z06 1 min 06.020 secs Lancer Evo IX 1 min 06.060 secs NA1 NSX-R 1 min 06.198 secs Nismo GT-R S Tune 1 min 06.232 secs (340 bhp) Ferrari F40 1 min 06.460 secs WRX STI SPEC-C 1 min 06.651 secs ( Current STI) NA1 NSX-R 1 min 06.80 secs (same race as F40) BMW M5 1 min 06.560 secs STI S204 1 min 06.800 secs BMW M6 1 min 07.434 secs 350Z S Version 1 min 08.110 secs BMW M3 1 min 08.200 secs Audi RS4 1 min 08.368 secs Supra Euro Version 330 bhp 1 min 08.460 secs Mazda RX-7 1 min 08.70 secs RX-8 A Spec 1 min 09.430 secs Nissan 300ZX 1 min 10.70 secsclicks of when it did that time are here. ive watched that vid loads of times and looked at the revcounter, and it looks like an amazing low lag track setup.in that tune hes getting 250brake from a high flow ct9 + 5e combo but the delivery of power looks so smoothdoes anyone know of the engine specifics of whats actualy in a jam engine. or more interestingly the specs of the cams they put in this 5e.or more importantly the spec of the hi flow turbo? it uses a jam actuater?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I've got a few specs of it.. I'll put em up when I get home later.. It does run a jam actuator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevink Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 thatissick!i never would ave thought it was running a ct9 !! anybody an idea how much boost it was running on? as known a ct9 runs out of air above 1 bar..highflow ct9? other word for hybrid? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ste91 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I'm interested to know what sort of management it uses, I'm guessing a JAM ECU but mapped to that setup? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 ^ from what I've seen that is indeed correct Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_cl Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 shame they didnt race (evo vs JAM) sounds like the jam glanza had troubles with the brake cylinder master?? and from the look of the brake pedel he almost had no brakes lol!either way that jam glanza is pretty mental, i'm sure the hybrid turbo has been worked almost to the max of the ct9 housing. so quite a big comp blade and perhaps a 360 trust bearing?i'm sure you know marks glanza (www.glanza.co.uk) well he sold it onto my mate, and that seems to have quite alot of jam items and hks so can only imagine that the person who built the car in japan had influence from the jam beast. he has some high lift hks cams running is his but i'm sure jam would have put in some high lift variations of there own so the turbo doesnt spool so silly hard and die out perhaps shifting the delivery to around 4k full boost?also the ecu my friends car is running is a custom mapped original ecu... so the stock 4efte has been chipped in japan (possible by jam) so again i'm sure jam had there own ecu in but mapped alot more aggressively then any other 'stock' jam ecu. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Galliano Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Mad Car. Mad Spec.Though if its a 5e, isn't it a 1497cc? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 DAMNNN that time is quick! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Very impressive car!! 250hp on a ct9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Well hybrid lol, but I'd bet that's on special juice aswell.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Hmm seems like it's gone few a few phases.. I have the specs when it was a 4e. Basically the same as above bar the engine..., but it was a ct9 @ 1.0 bar and it was 190 PS... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 yea i have starlet bible at home but its all in squigly writing.highflow ct9? other word for hybrid?i hi flow turbo is differnt to a hybrid in that only the waistgate gets board and compressor wheel modified to flow more air.thats a hi flow turboa hybrid in the true sense of the word is when you start using different compreessor - turbine,shaft wheel combinations.im thinking is this figure is possible on a hi flow turbo(like the gt spec) i wander what a td12 would be like on a 5e like that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pandamonium Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Thats some starlet, one can but dream.One way to find out Geo, do it Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevink Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 yea i have starlet bible at home but its all in squigly writing.i hi flow turbo is differnt to a hybrid in that only the waistgate gets board and compressor wheel modified to flow more air.thats a hi flow turboa hybrid in the true sense of the word is when you start using different compreessor - turbine,shaft wheel combinations.im thinking is this figure is possible on a hi flow turbo(like the gt spec) i wander what a td12 would be like on a 5e like that!thanks for clearing that up, keep learning things every day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Rob is right about the Jam Glanza going through different phases. Also when it had the 4E in it, it recorded a 1'04".865 round Tsukuba. Still awesome. It's definitely my favourite Starlet ever made, does anyone know what has happened to it? Do Jam still own it or sold it on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidAshton Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 In my bordem today and interest in Jam cars I did some trawling of the archived files from the Jam site and came accross a whole host of stuff I never knew about them..... unfortunatly there site becomes unaccessable after Oct 04 due to a formatting issue i think, which is when pics of the 5e Glanza start appearing....there is a whole host of stuff hidden in the past of there website from magazine articles to them working on customers cars passed a good few hours it did....if i get chance ill bang it all together in a post.....but for now i did manage to pull this off though when it was 4e spec straight from the jam site when it was actually for saleJAM RACING WORKSCARSFOR SALE!!For next term opening departure 輌 purchase, it cries, it cries, you release. 2,700,000 Yen in priceEP91 turboAt 1999 Tsukuba circuit marking 1 minute 4 seconds 867Engine itself4E−FTE base Forging piston original lightweight [baruburihuta] piston and connecting rod balance takingDeviation prevention process blow-by gas prevention processing inside oil panTurbine air cooled conversion processingTrust 10 step oil cooler kitJAM original preface [intakurakitsuto]Blow off valve lessNGK plug cordNGK racing 8th plugThe control with JAM original CPUTurbineGenuine reforming high flowStrengthening actuator[torasutopurohuetsuku] B specifications installationExhaust typeJAM original catalyst extensionJAM original TYPE2 mufflerDrive systemMission itself normalOnly final 4.058AP racing twin plate clutchTRD mechanical cable type 1.5WAY LSDBrakeFront carry per Will Wood 4POT carry per4POT private brake padRear JAM original type RC brake padAP racing adjustment type proportioning valveAPP stain mesh brake lineSuspension bushesFrontThe Cuzco camber adjustment type pyro upper mountHeight pitch for TRD race/laceSeries-wound coming spring 14K for TRD race/laceRearTRD strengthening upper mountHeight pitch for TRD race/laceSeries-wound coming spring 12K for TRD race/laceTRD suspension bushTRD strengthening engine mountJAM original pyro lateral rodInterior[buritsudojigu] you [hurubatsuketoshito]3 inch [uiranzu] 4Ã?4 seat belts[kusukokuromoriroruba] 7 point systemTrust 60φ boost gage oil temperature gaugeCrazy shit....it advertised on there site for a good year or so but im unsure if its actually this car that they 5e'd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Thats a sick spec, JAM muffle never knew they did an exhaust system Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidAshton Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Also some info on their engine specs when buying one, im guessing there own cars ran similar specs ○ complete engine[huruhuro] processed forging pistonPiston and connecting rod weight adjustingOriginal lightweight [baruburihuta]Oil deviation prevention processing inside [oirupan]Turbine air cooled conversion processed thermo- housing○ price (normal trade-in)EP91: 280,000 YenEP82: 350,000 Yen○ high cam specification price (normal trade-in)EP91: 360,000 YenEP82: 430,000 YenEngine itself EP82EP91 350.000 Circle280.000 Circle Engine removal and re-installation payment 50.000 Circle Supplemental devices removal and re-installation payments 30.000 Circle Motor oil BP20W-60 12.000 Circle Plug NGK racing 9.600 Circle Coolant Third SCC 2.000 Circle Oil element 1.000 Circle When it cannot take in trade the engine, 80.000 Circle High cam KIT IN EX250°-8.5o lift 80.000 Circle 15.000 Circle TRD strengthening engine mount set 25.500 Circle Catalyst extension 38.000 Circle [buritsutsu] K1-200V turbine 168.000 Circle Strengthening fuel pump 22.300 Circle Adjustment type [huyu] - l regulator KIT 22.000 Circle 76.5℃ low temperature thermostat 2.000 Circle Original computer As for normal trade-in 125.000 Circle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_cl Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 ah it mentions k1-200v turbine... so the high flow ct9 must be running one of blitz's turbine wheels making it it's hybrid variation or it's just running a blitz k1 which would make more sence some crazy shiz those japs and some of the parts going in to those engines are mint! wish i had such a spec'd glanza edit: Also done some digging and according to the Aus site Toby (toytuning) ran a blitz k1 and made '202@ wheels with the pfc f-con, all at 1.3 bar'so with a bit of a push and the 5e, high lift cams etc 250bhp i think is toatly achievable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 it ran a blitz k1-200v with jam actuater, its the same turbo that david is selling in the for sale section Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 ive found a 5e block and im trying to replicate the jam engine but with the use of a td12, it would be mint to know the lift and duration on the 250ps 5e. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BenV Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 thats an awesome idea man, td12 5e would be sweet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jax876 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 This is fewkin amazing!! i remember watching this vid aaages ago thanks for ressurecting it! its one of them vids where you watch and think I WANT THAT!!! this guy and his brother i think do a series where they boot loads of tuned car down windy jap roads...ne one kno what its called?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DavidAshton Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 ive found a 5e block and im trying to replicate the jam engine but with the use of a td12, it would be mint to know the lift and duration on the 250ps 5e.I know nothing about cams but does this mean anythingHigh cam KIT IN EX250°-8.5o liftfrom the above spec when JAM built customers engines? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 yea those are some specs, but those cam specs are pretty mildwith 250 duration and 8.5 mil lift, speedvison is 260 iirc with 8mil liftid imagine the 250ps glanza had some where between 272 -282 with 8.5 plus lift on inlet and outlet but cant find the magical specs anywere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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