Taggy Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 After seeing a few posts about baffled sumps to stop oil surging when corning hard around a track for example, i was wondering if fitting an oil cooler would prevent surging as effectively you are inserting an extra 1 litre oil buffer before the oil is reinserted back to the engine.I wasnt sure if the oil gets sucked straight from the sump to the head, or does it go via the sump then the filter and then back to the head and sump again, which order does it do it in?If that makes any sense!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie1st Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Would that extra 1L of oil just be up in the oil cooler though, rather than being in the sump so making no difference? I could be wrong though, I also want to look into a baffled sump as I starved a bearing of oil on my old engine causing it to spin a shell. That was on a long sweeping corner :/jamie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Someone should get a GB going on baffled sumps by the sounds of it lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie1st Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Someone should get a GB going on baffled sumps by the sounds of it lolI agreeee! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnboy GT Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 me 3!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cazzac2222 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Yeeaahhh GB on Baffled Sumps, ive deffo been looking into this after my mate killed his car at the weekend Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whiteglanzav Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 i did say a while back that i can get a load of baffled sumps made up but at the time no 1 had any interestif anything an oil cooler slightly reduces the pressure of the oil around the engine as it has further to travel.here are some pictures of my baffled sump anyone feel free to contact me regarding them if they want one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james@cjperformance Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Ed do you still have that sump? I have someone lined up that can knock then up for next to nothing:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whiteglanzav Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 the bloke that made mine for me has the required parts PM me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ricky@Race-Tech Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 We can do various different designed baggled sumps.To the original question an oil cooler is more likely to cause you problems than add to oil surge issues. It wouldn't act as an accumulator as it relys on pressure for the oil to flow through it. You can get an accumulator, think a couple of companies do them which work on the same priniciple as your thinking. In reality though your better off fixing the problem rather than trying to mask it IMO.RegardsRicky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 I agree, baffled sump seems to be the way, I have spun a bearing before on track at Silverstone which confused the hell out of me at the time as the engine was in good nick with low miles, so was wondering how the crank got packed in.Seems oil surge could have been the problem as the original sump design allows the oil to easily flow out of it.I would be very interested in a baffled sump.We can do various different designed baggled sumps.To the original question an oil cooler is more likely to cause you problems than add to oil surge issues. It wouldn't act as an accumulator as it relys on pressure for the oil to flow through it. You can get an accumulator, think a couple of companies do them which work on the same priniciple as your thinking. In reality though your better off fixing the problem rather than trying to mask it IMO.RegardsRicky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whiteglanzav Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I agree, baffled sump seems to be the way, I have spun a bearing before on track at Silverstone which confused the hell out of me at the time as the engine was in good nick with low miles, so was wondering how the crank got packed in.Seems oil surge could have been the problem as the original sump design allows the oil to easily flow out of it.I would be very interested in a baffled sump.i posted all the info you need to get 1 ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snails ep91 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 id be interested price pending. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Georgie Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 GROUP BUY! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russleh Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 another cj performance bargain groupbuy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie1st Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 PLeaseee get this going someone! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie1st Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Another question, that looks like it would be very close to the ground?Jamie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james@cjperformance Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I'm on it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nastyrash 2003 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 great idea, this could have happend to lukep car at caustle combs track thw it looks like oil over heated 1 or the other, the N/A lads need this as thr is no baffle in the sumps at all.chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Yes good point, whats the clearance on this from the ground Another question, that looks like it would be very close to the ground?Jamie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrkd5916 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 put me down for a group buy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 oh and me too, we need this in our lives if you can do a competitive price put me down for a group buy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james@cjperformance Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Anyone got a sump lying around I can use will need to make one to have sent off to be manufactured Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Georgie Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 any idea on price mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james@cjperformance Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Hoping around 130- 150 each need to get hold of a pen sump first Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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