A L 3 X Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Ive seen plenty of tuned jap cars that bang and spit flames mainly on overrun, yet my glanza is running rich enough on the JAM ECU but doesn't seem to do it, a bit gay but any reason why or how I can make it? heatwrap the exhaust maybe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Mine 4age did it on the stock ecu with a decat and stainless system Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Thats the thing, this occasionally pops but id expect it to pop and bang and spit flames as the ecu runs quite rich at times...strange :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I did hear that if the timings slightly out it can do it, but id rather it running right than popping an banging in all honesty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I get pops and bangs but no flames (Mine's ECU, heatwrapped SPS decat & Japspeed running 1bar) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Burny Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Mine used to spit flames on a JAM ECU if you kept your foot flat for long enough, didn't do my engine no good atall though my pistons were melted! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Mine used to spit flames on a JAM ECU if you kept your foot flat for long enough, didn't do my engine no good atall though my pistons were melted!I assume that was on throttle it was doing it then? Wouldn't want that to happen lol.So the jam ecu ruined your engine?Did you ever discover why? What were the afrs like Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TrisK Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I assume that was on throttle it was doing it then? Wouldn't want that to happen lol.So the jam ecu ruined your engine?Did you ever discover why? What were the afrs likea standard ecu can ruin your engine, depends how your drive, treat it, and maintence Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starbo Moorley Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Bee*r limiter ftw ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 a standard ecu can ruin your engine, depends how your drive, treat it, and maintenceTrue mate, just wanted to check if tere was anything to watch out for with the jam ones.As for the bee r, now I've heard they do kill engines lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I think Burny was running stock 5e pistons or something? And on quite high boost? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pick1 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Mine pops bangs n flames on over run when shifting gear quickly or letting of the throttle U can do it when driving slow just come of the gas then literally put your big toes worth of pressure bk on the throttle n it will allow just enough fuel through to pop bang etc if your motor does it all the time regardless of how it's being driving I'd say there was an issue with the fueling as u don't want your car running to rich cuz u can do just as much damage that way as u can running lean , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Yeah I've always seen tuned jap cars that after a ragging and on the run down they pop an bang a flame out, whereas mine don't seem to.And yeah I've got a wideband to monitor it mate, it does drop fairly rich when you first plant the throttle but then leans off a bit once the revs start climbing so hopefully should be ok, I doubt it's much richer than stock anyway as they are known to run fairly rich Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan_s Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 mines sometimes spits a flame if you just hit the limiter then change up but mines is on a piggyback ecu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pick1 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Heat wrapping exhaust would help mate getting your metal temp up other than that mate there's no real way of making it flame unless u fit a flame kit in your exhaust Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jack-CTR Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Flame kit or hard cut rev limiter is the only sure wayas above heat wrap your mani.and exhaust so its keeps the heat in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Is heat wrapping any good for performance?Flamer kits are a bit shit IMO as its cheating really lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jack-CTR Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Keeps the heat in which passes the air thru the system quicker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Ah I thought if heard that, someone was telling me what's the good in keeping the heat in as it heats the turbo up but I was sure I'd read a reason for doing it lol.Any ideas on what's good stuff without a heavy price tag and how much would be necessary for a full system after the decat to just before backbox? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan-11 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) mines pops and bangs like mad, flames when your giving it shit too i asked my tuner when he was mapping my car if he could do it. Edited November 28, 2012 by Ryan-11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Your car is crazy though Alex I used Ebay stuff, £5 per 10M. Used 30M for a 2.25" decat and Japspeed system. You should probably do the mani though too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 Yeah you can get em mapped to run rich on the overrun like Astra vxrs do, wish mine did haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pick1 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I've heard hear wrapping a Mani can give it more cause to crack as it can't release any heat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A L 3 X Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 I'm not gonna bother doing the mani or decat tbh as said I don't want them cracking, don't think the rest will crack though so ill wrap them, or would the Decat be safe also, it's stainless?Have you got a link Amjad mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I thought it was rapid heating and cooling that cracked manis? There's quite a lot of people that run wrapped manis but I guess you could ask whoever supplied the mani and see what they sayDecat should be fine really mine is braced it's the non braced ones that can crack even unwrappedLooks like it's gone up a bit in price />http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-Meter-Heat-Wrap-Exhaust-Downpipe-High-Temp-Insulating-Manifold-Rap-Tape-/280921398111?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4168385b5f Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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