morgey Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Ye he does Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 What i ment was. Just above the off-side of the rack there will be two pipes, one runs to the tank the other one goes to the pump. Cant quite mind, but anyway i think you just run a braided loop here.... So literally all i do is this... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 ALSO - does anyone know what AN size bolts that will need to fit the holes for the loop??????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) Aye bud i ment that, and you know what, that is exactly what i was gonna do. Havent ordered hose yet because i haven't got the little tool to measure thread pitch. Edited January 16, 2013 by daniel_g Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Yea thats all you do. I couldnt tell ya im afraid, i just cut my hard pipes of flaired them a little and fitted a bit of pipe over with some tightish clips and left it, been fine since lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 TBH i might just loop the esisting ones... If one only goes to the resi and one goes to the pump they will both be useless anyway so i could probs make a loop up.. maybe. I'm gona get the car up high tomorrow and have a look at the bit in the picture above and see how i will approach it. Dan if you could do me a massive favour and find out the bolt size that would be real helpful just incase i decide to get a proper loop made up! I know boltsbolts (uk based) make kits for hondas for £30 and he said he will/can supply me the kit i need for the same price all i have to do is find out the correct AN size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 If you do find out i might have one of them aswel as im not sure if mine being kinked is causing ay issues lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 No worries man if dan is kind enough to find out the sizes i can sort it out for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Also, how much fluid should i leave in the system and how do i know how much is left in there? :S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I'll throw up a couple of pics in a min. I'll want a proper kit made up. The bolt size is a 17, but no idea on thread pitch i'm afraid, these cars seem to have quite fine thread pitchs i find though. Also the two bolts are different lengths. Not sure if you could make a kit from the existing pipes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 I'll throw up a couple of pics in a min. I'll want a proper kit made up. The bolt size is a 17, but no idea on thread pitch i'm afraid, these cars seem to have quite fine thread pitchs i find though. Also the two bolts are different lengths. Not sure if you could make a kit from the existing pipes. Cool man, if you want i can put you in touch to have a proper kit made up for £30 from boltsbolts. Let me know when you're interested. Oh right cool. I was speaking to grant and he said most people just loop the pipes already on the car so im gna get the car up high tomorrow and see how i can go about doing it. Any answer on the power steering fluid question above? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Righto, not sure on the fluid, all mine has drained out, you only need enough to lube the rack so few 100 ml max should do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Nice one man! So those two bolts in the bottom picture are the ones that connect to the rack yeah? Sheesh how would you DIY loop that :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 You can cut the hard lines where it goes into the rack and loop it round with a bit of pipe there. That's if your not worryed about putting it back on. Or talk to a hose company about making a loop pipe up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Yeah those connect to the two holes in the first pic i put up. Tbh i wouldn't bother trying to bodge up a loop from the existing pipes, would prefer this braided loop thing. I'll try and match the thread pitch to something in my tap and die set, ( when i find it, never used it as i's a pro ) and i'll report back hopefully !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 You can cut the hard lines where it goes into the rack and loop it round with a bit of pipe there. That's if your not worryed about putting it back on. Or talk to a hose company about making a loop pipe up I'm not too bothered tbh lol. And thanks a very good idea, don't know how i didn't see that lol thanks. Yeah those connect to the two holes in the first pic i put up. Tbh i wouldn't bother trying to bodge up a loop from the existing pipes, would prefer this braided loop thing. I'll try and match the thread pitch to something in my tap and die set, ( when i find it, never used it as i's a pro ) and i'll report back hopefully !! Yeah cool man! Hm well if i manage to get it all off tomorrow then i MIGHT just do as grant said until i can find out what size the fittings are then order up a kit. But would really like it off ASAP cause it's just dead weight and i like the engine bay space it creates haha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 I think i'll cut the hard lines as said, then cut a |_| shape out of the top rubber hose and use that as a loop... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Was just about to say that, although the hose you are gonna use is a lot bigger ID than the hard pipes, the smaller rubber hoses have the same ID but they might not be long enough... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Darn. Grant, haha how else can this be done? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 See the smaller bent pipe to the left of the reservoir in that ^^^ pic, might do the job ? I just dont wanna cut the bolt ends off the hard pipes, yaknow, just incase lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 See the smaller bent pipe to the left of the reservoir in that ^^^ pic, might do the job ? I just dont wanna cut the bolt ends off the hard pipes, yaknow, just incase lol. Does it have enough bend tho? Wouldn't it just kink? What is the size of the hard pipe? I might even have somin knocking about in the shed tbh that is suitable. Yeah i understand haha, i'm a bit shit when it comes to things like that. I'm just like yeah fuck it that'll do haha. But if i can't get the right loop.. what i'll do is cut off the hard pipes with bolts still attached obv, then send them off to boltsbolts, so they can supply me/us with the new kit and fresh bolts. That might work nicely tbh.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 With out cutting at least one pipe its not gunna happen. One pipe is pressurised, thats the one that will need cutting the other one just used normal clips so the pipe can just be pulled off of that one and looped over no damage done. You can leave the resivoir in there i you want to leave fluid in the system, instead of going from the bottle to the pump you connect it to the pressurised pipe (would need cutting) and connect it on higher up, you then have an expansion bottle and room for the fluid to move around freely Just to confuse things a bit more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Not to sure the diameter of the hard pipes, about this size > (O) 2nd option sounds good man, steal some off a N/a in the scrappies haha. I normally dont mind doing shit moves to the car, i've removed everything i can but just cant bring myself to cut the PAS pipes until i have a new setup sorted. Made that mistake with the ABS brake lines lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Haha u guys. I had no choice, no room for the 2nd run in the crank pulley on my car so was just a case of, "shall we loop it" matt "yeah" "How"Matt, crunch (cuts pipe) "like this""Meh that'll do" Haha ghetto tuning Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beastmode panda Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 With out cutting at least one pipe its not gunna happen. One pipe is pressurised, thats the one that will need cutting the other one just used normal clips so the pipe can just be pulled off of that one and looped over no damage done.You can leave the resivoir in there i you want to leave fluid in the system, instead of going from the bottle to the pump you connect it to the pressurised pipe (would need cutting) and connect it on higher up, you then have an expansion bottle and room for the fluid to move around freelyJust to confuse things a bit more Haha, fuck sake lool now that's another thing to think about ha. Not to sure the diameter of the hard pipes, about this size > (O) 2nd option sounds good man, steal some off a N/a in the scrappies haha. I normally dont mind doing shit moves to the car, i've removed everything i can but just cant bring myself to cut the PAS pipes until i have a new setup sorted. Made that mistake with the ABS brake lines lol. LOL, that's tiny haha. Bun scrap yards i aint got the time to be trawling through em haha. Fair enough lol. So you've removed your ABS too? How does that feel? Is the pedal hard as fuck like you know when the ignition is off and you pump the brake pedal? That's what i can imagine it being like? Come to think of it, i've never seen a picture of your car? You got a build thread lol? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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