JTStarlet92 Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 Right, so trying to get the car started for first time in months and it. Just won't fire! Turns over fine but when I turn the key back to OFF, its like the fuel pump is priming and there's a hissing coming from the left hand of the fuel rail, sounds like a fuel leak but no fuel leaking? I can't get to the route of the problem and and seriously considering selling up.. Anyone got any advice? Quote
jayc-glanza17 Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 take the old fuel out..then put a gallon of fresh petrol in, see if she fires then..I had this issue few month back Quote
JTStarlet92 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Posted April 28, 2013 I'll try putting new fuel in tomorrow!What about the hissing? Sounds like its coming from the first injector on the left and the metal thing on the end of the rail next to it? Quote
morgey Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 Thats the fuel pressure regulator i guess, if thats split it wont be getting pressure so wont fire up. Might be worth getting one off someone on here to try Quote
JTStarlet92 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Posted April 28, 2013 Does that connect to the inlet manifold I take it? The lines fine, I don't think its sitting quite flush to the fuel rail due to the rail being powdercoated so will rub that down aswell! Injector seals have just been replaced so I don't think that's the problem as there's no fuel leak? This is bamboozling me like you wouldn't believe! Quote
daniel_g Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 Forgot to say earlier Jordan that i have a spare fuel pressure regulator if you need it. From a FTE engine though if it matters. Quote
morgey Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 Is it the little round thing with a small vacuum line off it and a larger fuel line? Bolted onto the end of the fuel rail with 2 bolts?Should have an o-ring on it sealing it to the fuel rail (since its not leaking that isnt a problem)If in doubt replace it with a another one, someone fitting a rrfpr will be able to sell you one cheap hopefully! Quote
morgey Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 The other thing is have you fiddled with the dash board at all? Uk spec cars have a standard immobiliser, its a wire running around the ignition barrel, if this is moved the car wont start! Quote
JTStarlet92 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Posted April 28, 2013 I. Didn't think the car had an immobiliser? Its not central locking so didn't think this was a problem? I've got a spare fpr already lads but thanks for the offers! Quote
morgey Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 Im not sure what model car u have dude, but all uk spec ep91's came standard with a immobiliser, theres a chip in the key that registers with the ring around the ignition barrel! Quote
JTStarlet92 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Posted April 28, 2013 Its a sportif! I was in at the ignition the past few days trying to sort my horn/airbag so I've maybe bumped it how would I sort it? On that note, I have a plug with a yellow lead hanging underneath my steering wheel (within the cowl), where does that plug in? Quote
morgey Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 Yellow lead it air bag i think (mines disconnected since i brought it 6 years ago lol)Yeah if you've had the plastic cowl off very high chance you've moved the imm ring out of range. I moved mine ever so slightly to fit a different cowl and it stopped the car from starting! Quote
JTStarlet92 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Posted April 28, 2013 I'll have to reconnect it then haha! Can I just move the ring back and it'll. Be ok or is it not that simple? Quote
morgey Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 Is your airbag light not on after disconnecting it? LolGet the cowl off and Just put it next to the key in the barrel and try start the car before faffing about loads getting it back it place. Just check that it is that. It should just start straight up if its back in place. Quote
JTStarlet92 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Posted April 28, 2013 Not that I'm aware of? Doesn't come up on the dials when the electrics are on haha! I'll give that a try tomorrow by the way, shouldn't fuel pump prime when ignitions on? Not when you turn the key off? And how long does it take? Seems like its. Never gonna stop! Quote
morgey Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 The airbag light should come on with ignition lights and go off soon after starting.Erm fuel pump im not sure on, my corolla doesn't prime and neither does my starlet, but my starlets not running a efe of any shape or form so i cant say. But yeah shouldnt hear it after turning the key off :/ Quote
JTStarlet92 Posted April 28, 2013 Author Posted April 28, 2013 Nope, no airbag light! I have paseo dials so I don't know if that will make a difference? I thought it was weird, it doesn't start doing anything till I turn the key off! Quote
5T4R7ET N/A Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 start with the basics make sure all the right earths are in place. then make sure you got spark then check your getting fuel. if the inlet has been powder coated was the engine running before with this on? the fuel pressure regulator vacuum pipe to the inlet could be blocked as the inlet manifold nipple is very small and could be blocked Quote
rmsnoel Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Is your engine turning over fast enough, are your sparkplugs dry, are you gettin fuel, is it trying to fire or.just turning over. Sportif's didnt usually have immobilisers (or airbags) and itll still start with the.immobiliser but switch off after 3_5seconds. Id say your battery isnt charged enough.. Quote
JTStarlet92 Posted April 29, 2013 Author Posted April 29, 2013 Got so many things to check tomorrow, will see what state the car is in and let you know what's actually happening! Quote
morgey Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Is your engine turning over fast enough, are your sparkplugs dry, are you gettin fuel, is it trying to fire or.just turning over. Sportif's didnt usually have immobilisers (or airbags) and itll still start with the.immobiliser but switch off after 3_5seconds. Id say your battery isnt charged enough..99.9% sure all uk spec ep91's have immobilisers dude, only cat 2 but its something! Quote
JTStarlet92 Posted April 30, 2013 Author Posted April 30, 2013 Replaced fpr and I think one of my injectors isn't seatting right so getting new seals for the set, think the injectors/rail is the problem! Quote
rmsnoel Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 No immobiliser on any of my sportif's 96-98, only on the SR.Never the less the car will still start as the immob only shuts it off after 3_5 seconds Quote
JTStarlet92 Posted May 1, 2013 Author Posted May 1, 2013 Hallelujah! Result: bad earth or more lack of earth behind inlet! Just seems to be idling slightly high now?Cheers lads! Quote
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