Well said - and thanks Rick, Harry and Phil, I try to be as objective as possible, because in that sense no-one is going to argue with fact if they cannot prove otherwise - I study materials and construction methods as one of my modules of my degree, and I've studied about cars, srsly, since I could read. I haven't seen previous threads of this nature, but Harrison and Rick, for a fact, know a lot more about cars and perhaps the Starlet in particular than almost everyone on this forum...but perhaps they just got pummelled cause people thought it was "their opinion" And Phil, regarding the center section - well true, the Stress would be concentrated on the hub of the wheel, but regardless, no-one designs them to "Snap" from the center - it's preposterous, it's potentially lethal! Wheels will generically bend, crack, fracture etc....but NEVER, EVER (and I mean, extremely rare even in Topfuel dragsters) have I seen a wheel that just....SHEARS!! It just startles me to the core - how can acceleration, cause a wheel to snap?! On street radials?? It's scary to think - the force of acceleration PALES to that of cornering, impact of a hard object etc...and it's snapping from acceleration/braking. I reckon people just get Rotas cause a) they're too lazy to get the real thing, ;) it pretty much looks like the real thing but is much cheaper than the real wheel would be brand new...and I suppose c) they're lightweight, so they can pretend it's the real reason they're getting said wheels. That's opinionated, and people will obviously try to prove me wrong on it. No-one will get them cause they're known to be robust, they're high-tech and built with advanced techniques to achieve low weight and strength...no, it's going to be the above.