I could sign up to some Tercel/Paseo forums but still wouldn't get the sort of answer I'm looking for as they are running 5EFE's... And Joz, don't want to point out the obvious here but it's worth mentioning, giving a comparison between the OBX and HotShot could be difficult considering you had a Powerflow exhaust with the OBX, and now a Fujitsubo with the HotShot. What's making it more confusing is people saying good and bad things about both the Pacesetter and OBX, so without actually buying and trying both I don't think I will ever get a straight answer...