Also no offence to Rick, but he is really biased towards the pacesetter for whatever reason, but the fact is he hasnt used one, no less on a 4EFE. Yes he has seen the pacesetter stuff and obx stuff in the flesh for other vehicles and said the build quality wasnt all that on the obx but we are talking about the EP/Seo here. I've had an OBX and for the money you get an awful lot. I've had it on for more than a year and altho its lost its original color, there are no cracks or signs of thinning metal etc. What is it you dont like about the OBX? The shape of the runners? Also take what guys from the usa say seriously because they have used these products the most. If they say the build quality is crap or thin, I'd take it seriously. And with the black coated Pacesetter, even if you wrap it, its all going to burn off underneath the wrap, may not be ideal if you get me. If you are going pacesetter I'd go for the armour coat. Just some food for thought, the majority of the 4EFE tuners are already on this forum... Joz