In the case and At £380 delivered I think they will be a top quality bargain ,why do you bring up weight and durability? If you had a clue you would actually realise that a rota slip is one of the lightest wheels about and durable with a good paint job and on track would you notice a difference ? I think not The whole slagging off and hate comes from the fact that they can't actually come up with a genuine design of their own and copy genuine wheels that were designed and manufactured years ago. Like said earlier nobody knows a replica wheel as a replica of a genuine wheel, everybody thinks nowadays that they're all replicas of Rotas.