I'm a big beliver in you get what you pay for see back when plug n plays were made technology would of been amazing now 15 plus years later it's even more amazing the ecu has advanced even more but some price tags are stupid even now on the plug n plays and apexi I really agree with Adam. I feel like now it's all money and power chasing, too big turbo's just been thrown at the starlet. I like to look in the hyper rev and still get hyped on the old stuff. I never wanted the emb but I knew it would do a finer job I don't really rate the emu I couldn't see a better result even with the Apexi I suppose it's all down to the individual I feel like the more money you have the more problems you can create it's hard to keep it simple. Out of all the ecu's out there the plug n plays are my favourites just because they are less hassle lol