Petr Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Hello to all,i have question about power, because now i thinking about it and in future i will do it ;)So what i need when i need beter power under hood?Corola mani? Sparks? Cold air intake? Other injections? Exhaust system? Chip fromAnd which parts of them?the target is about 100bhp with my 1.3efi 16v but if i have . Now I have this mods in motor(photo). In because nobody can helped with it ;)...thank you for all ansvers ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nic1.3 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 ok u need sum if not all of the following to get 100bhp rite this has been asked before but to recapget rid of that filter and get a better one like the BMC CDA and fit a cold air feedgood quality exhaust system like the blitz oneas said iridium spark plugsbetter ht(spark plug) leadsproabably best to put in a new dizzy cap and rotor arm in your distributorwrap the exhast and manifoldTRD thinner head gasketadvance the ignition timing7AFE throttle body get it ported and polished when fitting itport and polish the rolla maniglanza s injectorsafter all that u mite be close to the 100bhp...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletRick Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 having the air filter behind the radiator is not a cool thing to do mate. you want it getting cold air. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petr Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 Super.. thank you a lot for sum..So if i understand it will be beter to have air intake like this http://www.autodoplnky.because/picture/shop/zbo..._system_004.jpgand all other as nic wrote .. thank you a lot .. lets working on it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mart Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 ^^^ That looks like a Air Filter similiar to Front Mount is it???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevink Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 autostyle is crap!!!nough said... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petr Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 yes Mart .. its only filter for air intake..to kevik: good to know it.. other manufacturer .. this is only one manufacturer which sell it in our shops Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nic1.3 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 id go for a filter like this its the best u can gethttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMC-CDA-Carbon-Dynam...1QQcmdZViewItembut remember u need to do work to the handling and brakes aswell to be able to use all that new power properly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarletRick Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 yeah, you dont want the air filter too fat from the throttle body. it doesnt do your top end any good, and it will bog down when driving fast. you want a filter near the TB, with a cold air feed giving it some nice sexy cold air. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Idrees Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 ok u need sum if not all of the following to get 100bhp rite this has been asked before but to recapget rid of that filter and get a better one like the BMC CDA and fit a cold air feedgood quality exhaust system like the blitz oneas said iridium spark plugsbetter ht(spark plug) leadsproabably best to put in a new dizzy cap and rotor arm in your distributorwrap the exhast and manifoldTRD thinner head gasketadvance the ignition timing7AFE throttle body get it ported and polished when fitting itport and polish the rolla maniglanza s injectorsafter all that u mite be close to the 100bhp......All that should surely see more like 110bhp imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petr Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 yes ofcource.. i planed beter front brakers (Brembo or ATE) and completely check all about handing.. maybe take new braker system on rear.. .. I know that this power need to domesticate ;-).. thanks for attention from your sideIts nice filter.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petr Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 excuse me what is TB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nic1.3 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 TB is throttle bodyits the thing thats between the air filter pipes and the manifold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nic1.3 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 All that should surely see more like 110bhp imo.oh that i don't doubt idress but from previous threads there was alot longer selection to pick from, so i though that these mods would be the best bet to get anyone up to the 100 bhp mark..... omi these mods would make any starlet very nimble engine wise i mean...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petr Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 Super.. Know anybody the difference between corolla 1.3 4EFE engine and Starlet 1.3 4EFE engine? Because i see that corolla has 63Kw power with the same type as starlet but starlet has only 55kw .. It is possible to use something from corolla to inceased starlet power to the same as corolla have? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nic1.3 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 its just a different ecu and injectors i believe....not sure if they will work in the starlet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petr Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 nobody tested it here?dam.. because on because nobody dont know the difference and all starlets are in standard look (normal N/A without changes) .. what happend if I chenged injectors and ecu? It looked same when i compare corola and starlet engine and i will not damaged engine ..I looked on all thread here but nobody changed ecu from corolla to starlet.. Maybe i can consulted ecu with toyota scrapyard and consulted with my personal technician ;-).. after thet i will maybe changed the ecu and injectors .. Now i looking for dyno.. its too hard to found it here(normaly it is around 100km far ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rich Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 The corrolla has the tubular manifold, possible slightly bigger injectors to go with the increased airflow (although unlikely) and maybe a better map to go with the two.Someone did try the ECU but the engine didn't start - either emoboliser or ICV Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toby@ToyTuning.com Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 I would personally say the stock airbox and a good panel filter (or airboox with no filter) would be better than using an open ended filter. The stock box air feed isn't bad and will keep inlet temps lower than having an open ended filter in the engine bay, subject to heat soak. If you look at most of the high powered 5e NA's in Japan they retain the stock air box, you won't get the a throaty induction rore but you will be going quicker! With the exhaust keep the back pressure within reach of the engine, near stock levels will be fine. I really don't think you need to go mad with the 4efe engines, concentrate your effors on reducing weight, increaseing chassis stability/rigidity and improving brakes. You may not be as quick on the straights but on into the corners, round the corners and out of the corners you will be laughing. Consider more specialist items like a lightweight fly to aid engine response, short shifter kit to reduce gear changes, good tires, good suspension, front and rear braces, lower arm bars, anti roll bars. It will take time to perfect but it will pay dividends in the long run.Tobs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 good sound advice there Toby mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanglebadger Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 agreed.Phil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nic1.3 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 I would personally say the stock airbox and a good panel filter (or airboox with no filter) would be better than using an open ended filter. The stock box air feed isn't bad and will keep inlet temps lower than having an open ended filter in the engine bay, subject to heat soak. If you look at most of the high powered 5e NA's in Japan they retain the stock air box, you won't get the a throaty induction rore but you will be going quicker! With the exhaust keep the back pressure within reach of the engine, near stock levels will be fine. I really don't think you need to go mad with the 4efe engines, concentrate your effors on reducing weight, increaseing chassis stability/rigidity and improving brakes. You may not be as quick on the straights but on into the corners, round the corners and out of the corners you will be laughing. Consider more specialist items like a lightweight fly to aid engine response, short shifter kit to reduce gear changes, good tires, good suspension, front and rear braces, lower arm bars, anti roll bars. It will take time to perfect but it will pay dividends in the long run.Tobsi agree with toby about the lightweight flywheel as i fitted lightweight pulleys to my engine and it revs alot easier then standard did so i can imagine what the lightweight fly would do.as for your comment on the jap 5e na's i didn't know that...i always agree that when dealing with starlets its a "whole car " approach Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 whole heartedly agree mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Someone did try the ECU but the engine didn't start - either emoboliser or ICVi tryed it, as well as scutch0 when he had his n/aI think your right about the imoboliser and ICV..but its a bit of both i think..On scutch0's, he didnt have an imoboliser, and it wont even start..On mine, as i have an imoboliser it started fine, then cut out after about 5 seconds...you could of kept it running on throttle tho..which makes me think its the ICVRob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nic1.3 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 i tryed it, as well as scutch0 when he had his n/aI think your right about the imoboliser and ICV..but its a bit of both i think..On scutch0's, he didnt have an imoboliser, and it wont even start..On mine, as i have an imoboliser it started fine, then cut out after about 5 seconds...you could of kept it running on throttle tho..which makes me think its the ICVRobRob may i ask how would the icv affect the engine running with the rolla ecu... i assumed that it would be a difference in pins in the ecu cables, i mean wires going to different pins then in the starlet ecu and wiring Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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