Miller_Ep91 Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 got mine on a running now , waiting on fuel pump (hopefully be delivered tomorrow) then off to the dyno on friday to get the fueling check and hopefully if all is well with fueling a power run. will only be on about 12psi of boost though as need to wait a few months till i can get and map my emb. cant wait.any guess on power peeps? ist gunna be on 12 psi , without emb for a bit , so want really no the what this turbo can do till turn up to a bar and mapped.spec.td12 turbo (at 12psi)weper power up kit2.25 full exhaust systemhdi fmicfse fprtuning developments fuel pumptuning developments catch canhdi ebsngk iridium plugsmagnecor leadstial ewgprobs summit missed but you get the idea engine wise Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BenV Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Good news man, how she running?I'm going to go for 211bhp fella Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 12 psi's about 0.85 bar isnt it? im guessing about 182 bhp as a random guess Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 12psi = .82bar@12psi i dont think it will be anywhere near over 200 at 12psi. if we get that at 1-1.2 bar then il be happy with that i dont know what to expect mate. 160+bhp on that setup perhaps, not touching timing.where this turbo should make more power over the standard ct9 will be 1bar(14.7psi) + of pressure.mines is running now but im just waiting on some cooler pipes as i have a shity autobahn mani and it does not work with the zisco ram manifold.should have mine dynoed next week and ramsay will probably get his done at the same time.him and i will do a power run at 1.2(17.4psi), im hoping for 200+bhp on a jam ecu with standard pump, reg and injectors.hes running a sard ecu. with uni chip on his. id say get your fualing check done at 1bar with a fpr and pump installed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Evans Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 id say round about 160-170 as is.what boost can these run upto safely??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miller_Ep91 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 I have no idea what power to expect really , its only gunna be running 0.8 bar for a few weeks untill i can get my emb mapped to a 1bar . Hopefully should see the 200 mark then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 are we talkeing 200bhp@wheels or fly? couse I've got nearly 200 on stock ct9 boosting at 0.9bardont know if the turbo will last long but it seems to be pulling like a trains with no smoke just thort id give you an idear of what you could get hes my specENGINEapexi power fc ecu mapped to 196.2bhpct9 turbo hks actuatorblitz decatzisco compact manifoldhks dump valve autobahn front mount intercooler blitz sus power air intake filter [located to the front bumper aircon removed]syntec fuel pressure regulatorsyntec fuel pumpmagnacore 0.8 ht leads ngk iridium spark plugsand that its with a buggerd actuator bracket the lad how mapped my car said when i get a hybridgt spec he said he could get my car to 220 215bhp as the turbo whont be under as much pressurei dont know if it got anything to do with the ecu why im seeing theys figgers but im happy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_cl Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 but micky you had an amazing PFC doing all the work I made just under 170bhp on the Tong hybrid at 11/12psi (without management) so i would put a guess at around 170-180bhp tops. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 that graph looks out. power and torque should cross over at 5250 if im not mistaken.in that graph it looks like it crosses over at 5500rpms.someone please correct me if im wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 im not to sure mate im just geting into this type of thing lolhes another one i had done befor i fitted the zisco manifoldi hope you dont mind me puting another one up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 that graph looks out. power and torque should cross over at 5250 if im not mistaken.in that graph it looks like it crosses over at 5500rpms.someone please correct me if im wrongyup as Geo said that ain't right.. Yours is crossing at 5750 and it should be 5250 so you know it's not right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jason_l Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I will be watching this topic closely Think i will be going TD12 on mine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 im going to give the lad a call sometime today how mapped my car and see what he has to say for him self hes a good friend of the familyso cant see him haveing my eyes out ill keep youse all posted and let youknow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_cl Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 it's proberly just that the graph wasnt properly configered, i had a similar thing when i was up at a dyno, the guy just re-configred the graph and it was all fine... but i would double check and possibly go down to get a power run just to make sure the bhp number are 100% Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russleh Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Mate, Dastek are pish ! I had the same when i got mine dyno'd. Said it ran 203 bhp @ the fly, just on a ct9 and without the GCC Crossover was way up at about 5800 or something, there monkeys.I then went to Hypertec,they set up my fcon + GCC, turned out with 189bhp. There graph made alot more sense aswell.was just about to mention that dastek printout. more like a random number generator than a dyno. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amjad Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 ^LOLI will be interested to see what this Hybrid can do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rorenapier Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 The graph above will read shit, because the graph uses diffirent scales for hp and Torque.Hence why it doesnt cross at 5252. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WallaceGlanza Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Where did this magical point of 5250 come from? Why SHOULD the lines cross there?If you think thats magic you don't know as much as you think you do. Power is a function of torque, the formula for working out the peak power of an engine from its peak torque is to multiply the torque by the rpm at the point its achieved by 5252 (Hp = Torque x RPM/5252), hence where the crossing point of the graphs come from.The actual number 5252 can be derived through a formula where you're converting force, distance and time into hp then force and radius into torque to give a formula for hp in terms of torque. Its all maths which I can't do anymore but did study at uni. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BAZ2CRAZY Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I keep seeing 14.7 psi = 1 barIts actually 14.5 psi. 14.7 psi = 1 atmosphere = 1.01325 bar MitchEdit: the post above is a winner.Cracking bit of math there! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miller_Ep91 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 update...never made it to the rollers lolhad car booked in for mot this morning then of to the rollers , bloody car failed mot so never made it to rollers. just a few small bits so in the workshop tomorrow to get them sorted then hopefully off to the rollers on monday .will keep everyone updated also my exhaust it blowing quit badly on the decat (will be sortin tomorrow) and its not dumping properly when i come off the throttle could this be down to the exhaust blowin?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve GT Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 gutted really wanted to see the result. will have to wait a few more days then lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miller_Ep91 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 yeah im gutted mate , but least its nuffin major and all will be sorted tomorrow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 The dumping has nothing to do with the blowing exhaust so thats something else that needs to be sorted It boosting OK? Coulsd be a boost or vacuum leak somewhere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miller_Ep91 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 yeah boosting fine , not gettin any chatter or dump just a whistle sorta noise, i will have another check round it tomorrow , might be a fmic pipe or summit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sparky Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Sounds like a intercooler pipe mateHope you get it all sorted for monday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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