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you do realise that Starlet GT's come out of the factory with more or less the same 0-60mph time then the all mighty Seirra Cosworth?

The only slightly respectable ones are a tuned Escort Cosworth or a RS200... the rest are so underwhelming it hurts to put that fake smile on your face that your impressed with them purely because of the pedigree.

Ford owners... Pish! :)

speed speed speed. lol. not all about speed now is it... id own a cosworth over a glanza anyday if i cud afford it lol...

in terms of street cred, i wud think a cosworth wud win :rolleyes: sound they make, design, looks. i think there brill cars :lol:

ryno= legend well said dude

take the "amazing" fiesta ST.....2.0l engine and only 148bhp put it against my old gt before boost was increased at all and my gt bummed it. too over rated for me lol

sounded ever so chav that did... exhaust and intake restrictions for insurance reasons...

Not designed to be fastest thing on the roads. designed to do everything as a compromise... There a very good car imo...

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lol they are in completely diffrent leagues, but i'd go for speed and reliability over street cred any day!

again when you refer to 'Cosworth' your not really refering to Fords but the tuned edition of a very poor base car!

as you can tell i'm a jap fanboy, but i'm that for a reason!

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speed speed speed. lol. not all about speed now is it...

whoah whoah whoah not all about speed??

youve been telling everyone you cant w8 to tune your glanza to get it as fast as possible and you were sick of being left behind in your fezzie

not all about speed ey??

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whoah whoah whoah not all about speed??

youve been telling everyone you cant w8 to tune your glanza to get it as fast as possible and you were sick of being left behind in your fezzie

not all about speed ey??

i miss boost more then anything, very nearly bought a Zetec- Turbo fiesta....

i like to tune cars.... and yeh speed is part of the fun... id be happy with 160bhp ish like what yours was... then get some handling mods done cus i feel thats sumthing starlets and glanzas lack over other cars... (cornering abilty)

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it's not really slagging off other types of cars, it's just looking past the hype to be realistic!

can't say i've ever owned a french car, but after spending a while chucking some around the Nurburgring i have nothing but respect for them, same with German cars and Jap cars.

All makes have their plus sides and negative bits, i just don't get bullshitted easily by people going.... ahhhh it's a cosssssie :rolleyes:

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french cars arnt that bad its just socks has known a lot of people with 106 gti's and saxo vtrs that go wrong. there the cheap boy racer cars. i personally used to love my saxos. there brill cars but not very well built. but i agree with ryno again french cars are impressive once you get out of the cheap affordible range lol

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it's not really slagging off other types of cars, it's just looking past the hype to be realistic!

can't say i've ever owned a french car, but after spending a while chucking some around the Nurburgring i have nothing but respect for them, same with German cars and Jap cars.

All makes have their plus sides and negative bits, i just don't get bullshitted easily by people going.... ahhhh it's a cosssssie :rolleyes:

the hype i believe is cus of the engine no??

800bhp from a 2.0 4pot? that not impressive? there tunability makes them popular too..

Lots of tunability makes somthing popular too :lol:

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I'm a Jap boy too but I do reserve a little piece of mind for Escort Turbos and Cosworths. They were good cars in their time, it's not their fault who buys them, but many jap cars are driven by the same idiots these days. As cars decrease in value and cheap parts they go lower down the hierarchy.

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depends where you live and drive, to me a skyline/supra is a waste on my roads at there's nowhere to open them up.

where as a road going rally car is perfect for the dirty b-roads! :rolleyes:

oh.... and to me anything over 400bhp it just unsuable as a road car!!!!!!!

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