Pros and Cons of Removing ABS from a high powered starlet?

[Browner]

As above folks. Looking for the advantages and disadvantages of removing the ABS completely from a high powered starlet? I have seen it done before but hear mixed opinions on it.

Thanks in advance,

Browner.

[ForgedV]

I too would like know this, im running ksport 6 pots everytime i pressed the pedal sharp abs used to take it longer to slow down and thats in the dry and normal road speeds

[turbo Grant]

Never had abs on a starlet. All depends how you drive it really. Personly I'm not a big fan on the older abs systems. They sent that good

[AdamB]

As Grant said, not a fan of the older type system, kicks in way to early and you have no real feel over the pedal.

[Browner]

ForgedV how do you find the 6 pot K sports? I was thinking of investing in a set or maybe Wilwoods. My nerves are gone with the brakes here at the minute

[james@cjperformance]

rip it out, the system is crap and just adds weight/ more things to go wrong for mot purposes

if i were you dude, id go for a wms kit and remove the abs and all will be fine

[glanzagee]

ive never had it kick in on my old v with wilwoods the only times was in the snow at walking pace

advantage more space in the engine bay for mods

have a look at my build thead theres a few pic of the mods invo

[Browner]

what money are those kits James. I dont mind going fast but when your not sure if you can stop it then you have a problem!

[200bhp starlet]

It's about 700 for wms kit all in but worth every penny from what I have heard mate

[SiCaln]

had the 6 pots endless without the abs and were perfect, ditched the abs when a sensor died

[_shaun_]

i run the wms kit honestly worth every penny as its all country b roads round me saved my ass more times than i can count now. dunno how people get away with uprating the power so much but not doing much on the brake side must be all straight line drivers :harhar:

[Browner]

What pot are wilwoods lads?

[micky boy]

4pot

[Browner]

And the wms 6 pots in theory should be better?

[_shaun_]

wms are 4 pot aswell but they do diffrent sized calipers and disks best bet is to drop keri a pm

[WallaceGlanza]

And the wms 6 pots in theory should be better?

It's not all about the number of pots/cylinders!

[ForgedV]

ForgedV how do you find the 6 pot K sports? I was thinking of investing in a set or maybe Wilwoods. My nerves are gone with the brakes here at the minute

I never really go a chance to properly use them if I'm honest the car came off the road a short while after fitting them only just ran the pads in really but did have a few problems with the abs kicking in had no problem with the brakes in my GT with no abs so il just go for that route again

[AdamB]

It's not all about the number of pots/cylinders!

This

The size of the rotors, the piston size, brake fluid, and having air rush onto the brakes to cool them down helps.

[glanzagee]

This

The size of the rotors, the piston size, brake fluid, and having air rush onto the brakes to cool them down helps.

you forgot one of the most important thing matching the caliper to the servo and i think the guyy above you was on about this ?

[mrkd5916]

i noticed no difference when drive the glanza daily with abs but then its is ment to be a aid to stop the wheels locking up as you all know,

but in a weight saving way the pump is heavy!!!

[Browner]

It looks like the pump us being beaten out the hatchet today so lol

[Dave D Glanza V]

im runnin 6 pot k sports ferodo pads with abs never had any problems amazing stopping power

[zebedee]

I'm running the 3g/willwood kit and have recently removed the ABS i had become much better imo.

You can get all the parts needed from toyota to do it.

[yaristurbo]

Any one got some pics of their master clyinder when it's removed I.e. Which out let goes to front and back. Does it matter????

[ForgedV]

Any one got some pics of their master clyinder when it's removed I.e. Which out let goes to front and back. Does it matter????

I removed my abs last weekend. Thanks to silly sr having a uk starlet non abs I had his o/s & n/s brake lines, proportioning valve, and the lines that run off the master cylinder and the 2 rears stay in the same place. Was all a straight fit, might be worth if there's any non abs uk starlets around and rip the brake lines out of that, still looks oem then too.