rob_bower Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Like it says what discs are a direct fit for this conversion? I'm sure some kne said they had found some off a BMW or something. Rob Quote
ro55ifumi Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Waiting on Shorty ;) , they are off a Vauxhall just can't remember Quote
turbo Grant Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 The vauxhall discs off say a mk4 1.7 d 4 stud 24 x 256mm fit with lathe work done to the bell Quote
shorty Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Only needs enough ot the bell to make it sit tight over the hub as this helps centre the disk. just measure the hub and your away recomend ebc yellows on a stock or grooved disc. Stops very well.Forgot to add. levin ae111 twin pots need a small amount dremeling/grinding off the centre rib of the carrier where it sits to the hub. celica gt165 twin pots dont as the carrier is thinner from stock on that part. Edited July 17, 2012 by shorty Quote
rob_bower Posted July 17, 2012 Author Posted July 17, 2012 What removed from the inside wall of the bell so it centres over the hub? Also vauxhall mk4 what ? Astra? Quote
Johnboy GT Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Its the centre bore needs to be modified im sure? (read the topic and a spacer is needed). And yeah im pretty sure its an Astra aswell mate!(It is an Astra) John Edited July 18, 2012 by Johnboy GT Quote
Johnboy GT Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 http://www.ukstarletclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=49562&view=&hl=&fromsearch=1Think this is the info your after Rob?John Quote
shorty Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 No spacer is needed. its a bit of the inner bell metal think its like .5mm so the bell pysical fits on the hub and yes astra. the centre bore is bigger than a starlets. the facct that the bell sits tight on the hub will centre the disk as apose to the centre bore centering it. an adaptor coller can be made for the centre bore if your that bothered but isnt realy needed as the snug fit prevents travel.Again no spacer is needed. both me Nd grant ran this set up for ages with no isses atal. Quote
Socks Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 http://www.ukstarletclub.com/forums/index.php?app=ccs&module=pages§ion=pages&id=2&record=19 Quote
shorty Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 The set up we are discussing does not reqire longer studs or a spacer plate to run just minor milling of the disc hub. the setup in the link is far more hassle imo. ill load pics to make this clearer if i get a chance. this is a much better disc choice an used also by gt phayer and cazzac. a 25x280 astra disc can also be used but the disc needs milling to 260 to work aswell as the bell housing milling mildly. astra discs are a much better setup. Quote
rob_bower Posted July 18, 2012 Author Posted July 18, 2012 yea ive seen the wiki but i knew someone had found some nai on direct fit discs as im weighing up my brake options for the sr. Quote
turbo Grant Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 It's turning of the disc rather than milling. Don't want to confuse people shorty. Quote
shorty Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 Lol true. Its the astra set up you want rob and its the most direct you will get. spacers behind the disc are a tad dodgey imo. the astra setup means no spacers or arsing around with studs. Quote
rob_bower Posted July 18, 2012 Author Posted July 18, 2012 Yea sounds like much less hassle just weighing up what options i have and how much there going to realistically cost.right so a mk 4 astra 1.7 diesel disc turning down the inside of the bell by about 0.5 mm lol Quote
shorty Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 Yep grant maybe able to confirm if its .5 for sure but either way it needs to fit snug to the hub as the centre bore is 60 iirc on the astra disc so it wont centre using that. you could have a small filler coller made to sit in the gap of the centre bore but tbh i never bothered. once the disc is turned its nice and centred anyhow.Ebc yellows are around 95Gt or levin calipers are 60-160Discs 50-130depends how lucky you are sourcing the calipers and what sort of disc and pad you run tbh. could do it for under 200quid if you just want bigger standard style brakes and find good calipers at reasonable cost. the set i sold cazzac where mint levin ones i bought from yahoo auctions. never seen a set so mint!!!! Quote
turbo Grant Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Your old callipers were minty fresh shorty. I cans remember all the exact sizes of the centre bore and how much to take off the discs. It's not a lot. On my first set of disc I had on my black GT about 3 years ago I had to beat the discs off with a hammer because it was such a snug fit over the hub.My first set up cost me £140 for every thing. Edited July 18, 2012 by turbo Grant Quote
rob_bower Posted July 18, 2012 Author Posted July 18, 2012 seen some levin calipers and discs for £60 want something thats going to stop well as ill be running td04 at a bar eventually. either levins eor keep saving for some wms or similar. Quote
Amjad Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 I use Astra discs on my 277.5mm ST185 (late spec) setup too Quote
Johnboy GT Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 Ahh i see Shorty, that would be a better esy of havin the disc in place. Apologies for the incorrect link then.John Quote
shorty Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 No worries dude ;) And rob twins with yellow stuffs on grooved discs will defo stop you very well no worries there. would stop you at td04 1.4 bar Quote
rob_bower Posted July 18, 2012 Author Posted July 18, 2012 nice one cheers dude i might make him an offer on the calipers then Quote
rob_bower Posted July 18, 2012 Author Posted July 18, 2012 looks like they might be the same as the old gte discs HERE awesome http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASTRA-MK3-91-98-GSI-GTE-2-0-16V-FRONT-GROOVED-BRAKE-DISCS-254MM-/170721516200?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27bfcb9aa8 Quote
turbo Grant Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 Umm not sure. Just looked the Astra gte discs up in the brake book. The part numbers don't match up to the mk4 Astra discs I used and know fit. The ferodo part number for the discs on the mk4 I used is DDF1041 Quote
ro55ifumi Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 Grant is this the part number for the disc's ADC1105VSP?? Quote
turbo Grant Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) What make of discs are they? I'll cross the number overBlueprint part number? Looking nowCan't find that number in the book. Only got stock disc part numbers to handMintex part number is MDC1049Q&H " " BDC4813TRW " " DF4042 Edited July 18, 2012 by turbo Grant Quote
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