EP-Azz Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Hi all Surely if I upped the boost to 1bar on standard management, used an fcd and dawes device to set at 1bar, the fueling would be fine because the map sensor reads to 1.2bar? Am I right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Addymk2 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Correct me if I'm wrong here but wouldn't that run lean on boost?The FCD just fools your ECU into thinking its running less boost than it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keirz Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 would go bang! Chuck an fpr in there and get the fueling checked is the only way to be safe. Management would still be better but lots of people go fpr and fcd. Not for me but each to there own Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EP-Azz Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 But would it need the fpr? Because if the map sensor reads to 1.2 bar the ecu can provide the right amount of fuel? Im just thinking of a cheaper way im not letting this beast die keirz trust me lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Addymk2 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 The map sensor would read that high if the FCD wasn't fooling it. The MAP sensor thinks its receiving 0.7 bar when it's actually receiving a bar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 But your fuel cut is .8 bar of boost so a stock map sensor never sees more than .8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Addymk2 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Hi all Surely if I upped the boost to 1bar on standard management, used an fcd and dawes device to set at 1bar, the fueling would be fine because the map sensor reads to 1.2bar? Am I rightNo. You need a FCD and a FPR, sorted lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EP-Azz Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 Ohh I get ya so the only way is a fpr? And Wideband Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 And a dude with a dyno to set the fueling up, piece of mind. Unless you wanna have a go yourself ? There is a HUGE thread ( argument ) somewhere on here with views on how to go about it with, WOT readings should be etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Think this is it, have a read for inspiration lol./>http://www.ukstarletowners.com/index.php?showtopic=54016 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EP-Azz Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 Gonna get a sard fpr with a fuel cut and take it straight to a rolling road, best way to set up on that set up ithink Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liam_D Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Get management, really disagree with FCDs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EP-Azz Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 I will eventually but already got a fpr here so gonna run it safe first, will get a jam for it eventually I think Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davehart Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 For the little gain you will get and safety all round of the motor why not get an eManage Blue, map it and your sorted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EP-Azz Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 Yea I suppose! Lee what kinda power do you think it will push at 1bar? 180 maybe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keirz Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 lol it made 196 on stock ct9. Have you seen the size of that hybrid. With a good map at 1 bar it will clear 200 without a doubt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ro55ifumi Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Management for piece of mind and mechanical sympathy is the way forward John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smobey_sutton2 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Fcd and a fpr, then check over on the rolling road will probably cost you about the same as an e-manage blue management and mapping! Do it properly the first time!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EP-Azz Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 200 would be evil! Emanage looks good and simple for the price, do you still need a fcd n fpr with it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keirz Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 no i dont believe you do, would be be great to see what it makes at 1.1 mapped on emanage. As said above, wait til you can do it properly to ensure its safe, wont cost you much more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Addymk2 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 200 would be evil! Emanage looks good and simple for the price, do you still need a fcd n fpr with it?No just get it fitted and mapped, you will however need a boost controller or an adjustable actuator, jobs a fish! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ro55ifumi Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 On emanage you would see a better mid range and there fore a better drive , it's not all about top figure ;) drop Tuning Development a line 550 fitted an mapped stock injectors and fuel pump will be ok on ct9John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pick1 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 ^^^ agreed tuning developments all the way for emanage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EP-Azz Posted January 8, 2013 Author Share Posted January 8, 2013 Yea? Well ill have a spec r boost controller, set at 1 bar, but 550 is a lot IMO compared to fcd n fpr n a dyno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Addymk2 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 It will be more but it would be worth it in the long run, or go for the £100 FCD, £100 FPR (avoid the fake SARD jobbies on eBay) and a setup on the dyno. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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