Lew91 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Just been and got this for the GT Now what side of the turbo/inlet mani does the maf go? Edited March 21, 2013 by Lew91 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danb Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Sure That for a starlet? They don't use mafs as you will use map sensor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lew91 Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 Well the fella had it on his ep82 running a tdo4. I thought the same as you but it's confused me a little. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevonGT Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Before the throttle body, closer the better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lew91 Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 I said that but on the s14 it's inbetween the turbo and air filter, we've just had a bit of a debate over it. Looks like I won Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Thats a HRF Starlet Setup and it does indeed use a MAF!Rare as rocking horse shite! Someone who has a hyperevs handy get a pic! I think the kit came from HRF with injectors too? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lew91 Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 We've got 550cc's to run with it, the fellas GT was running a tdo4 @ 1bar and made 269bhp with this set up. Hoping the maps still on there tho and it's all ready to go Got it pretty cheap to, to cheap infact Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maddox710 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I think I've seen that gt was it gold?Bloody nora 269bhp@1bar !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lew91 Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 I think I've seen that gt was it gold?Bloody nora 269bhp@1bar !!We didn't go up to the house to see it, it's quite a well to do area to say the least. His eBay picture showed a white one tho. Yeah I don't know if it was forged or not, probably guessing it was by the size of his house lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) Maf goes in the cold side inter cooler pipe. That's how it is in hyper revs. And also make sure it's fitted the right way round Edited March 8, 2013 by turbo Grant Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lew91 Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 Ah nice find, yeah the maf's got a glow direction arrow on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danb Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 you learn something new everyday Even uses the z32 maf too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rubix_Cube Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) MAF goes in between the Airfilter and turbo. And you need to have some distance between the turbo and the MAF it will cause idling issues. You can run the MAF in the boost pipes, however, they cannot take the pressure and blow the square plastic bit apart at more than a bar of boost. Edited March 8, 2013 by Rubix_Cube Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lew91 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 Bumping this up for a bit more info. We've fitted it with the injectors it was mapped with and the car don't run, we've plugged the standard ecu back in and it fires first time. Does any one have any ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Whats the car trying to do? Any fault codes? What setup was the previous car mapped on compared to your setup? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lew91 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) Our cars on tdo4 the same as the ecu was mapped to. We havn't had time to check for fault codes yet, it just turns over and attempts to fire but dies off again. Edited March 21, 2013 by Lew91 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lew91 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 Would it of wiped the map off when it was unplugged?Could an earthing out from the battery wiped it to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Nah its programmed into the memory of the ecu.Have you checked the spark plugs? Are they wet? My guess is its overfueling if it won't fire. Have you got the software? I believe there is a 4EFTE base map you can revert back to if you need to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lew91 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 Nah its programmed into the memory of the ecu.Have you checked the spark plugs? Are they wet? My guess is its overfueling if it won't fire. Have you got the software? I believe there is a 4EFTE base map you can revert back to if you need to.Oh right well it could be over fueling we're using 550cc injectors but they guy who we got them from said it was mapped with them as well. No I don't have any software, just ecu and maf. We're on our way back to pool now to see the fella about his turbo kit, I'll see what he has to say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lew91 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 Just spoke to the fella, his engine was running billet cams so I'm guessing the timings completely out. Nice fella tho he's got some good bits and there rather cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Get a timing light in it. Could be the fuel pressure not set right. If he was running a lover base fuel pressure it would cause it to over fuel. Just opening the throttle while cranking should make it at least try to fire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lew91 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 We tried the throttle and nothing happened, think we'll try a few options out tomorrow night now it's to late to think lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 It will also depend on the location of the MAF. Bit of a pain in the ass them things lol.Let us know how you get on mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob H@RCH Engineering Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 MAF is going backwards in tuning terms, map is much better but if thats all you have to use you will have to use it. The hole map will be miles out if he had cams in his car, Timing and every thing will need redoing even if it runs I would not drive it with out getting it set up to your engine spec. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simon Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Full story is that Apexi never made a power FC specifically for the starlet. There were two companys that adapted the power FC to be use on a starlet one was AP Engineering which are the more commonly found ones based on an MR2 unit. This one is one adapted by HRF, i'm not sure what the base unit was but could have been nissan based as they commonly use a MAF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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