New Shell V-Power Fuel?

[Socks]

http://www.shell.co.uk/gbr/products-services/on-the-road/fuels/vpower/what-is-v-power-nitro-plus.html

Ooooooo

Wonder what it smells like haha

[morgey]

100 octane from what i can gather. How much is it going to be? Lol

[micky boy]

Haha its about time a 100 octane was out over here

[Matt1878]

I filled up with the stuff yesterday... All the standard V-Power pumps had been changed to V-Power Nitro+... Should have looked how many litres I got but I wasn't clever enough to think of that lol

[Amjad]

Didn't see anything about octane in the link?

[Amjad]

http://www.shell.co.uk/gbr/products-services/on-the-road/fuels/vpower.html

[Glanza Mac]

Can't wait till remap with that stuff

Rob.

[morgey]

I googled it the other day

[A L 3 X]

Will people with cars mapped on v-power normal be safe to run this then?

[turbo Grant]

Yeah cars mapped on v-power will be safe on this

[A L 3 X]

That's good then lol

[Amjad]

http://www.focusstoc.com/forums/topic/131086-shell-v-power-nitro/

Octane will be the same by the looks

Edited April 19, 2013 by Amjad

[Chris Green]

I'll have to stick with the BP Ultimate, we don't have Shell in Northern Ireland anymore

[Taggy]

I always wonder with V-Power or any higher octance fuel, that if half the people that actually put it in their cars realise that it wont make any difference to their cars performance unless its been mapped on it to start with.

My mate always puts it in his Clio sport for track days but i have been arguing with him that it wont make any difference, unless the car can detect its got higher ron fuel in it to adjust the timing, he still does though lol!!

Tell me if i am wrong but the extra octane just reduces detonation so you can have a more agressive timing on the car hence more power.

[micky boy]

Most ecus can adjust to an extent i.e 1 or so more octane the ecu will adjust to run that octane! So it can make alittle diffrance!

[morgey]

I cant see how they can though, theres nothing to tell the ecu that it has a different octane fuel in it. Any timing adjustments would have to be done manually?

Koinigsegg are the only car manufacturer that im aware of that has a fuel octane reader thats linked to the ecu so it can automatically adjust its map to suit the fuel thats being fed into its engine

[Taggy]

I would have thought most road cars have static maps, i wouldnt have thought they would actively adjust the timing based on what fuel was in it? Maybe on high end performance cars

[Taggy]

I just think the whole V-Power thing is a bit of a con by the fuel companies, Morgey hit the nail on the head all the boy racers stick it in their cars thinking it gives more power when in fact it doesnt. The ecu is pre programmed to run a stock map, no way is it going to actively adjust on the fly, would bring in way to much possibilty for error and damaging th engine for a road production vehicle.

Unless you map with it, i think its a total waste of money

I cant see how they can though, theres nothing to tell the ecu that it has a different octane fuel in it. Any timing adjustments would have to be done manually?

Koinigsegg are the only car manufacturer that im aware of that has a fuel octane reader thats linked to the ecu so it can automatically adjust its map to suit the fuel thats being fed into its engine

[mech5107]

Our cars have knock sensors, so it can hear detonation and pull timing, thus reducing performance.

[Amjad]

Our cars are built to run on 102RON Japanese fuel so surely it's better to use high octane?

[morgey]

I use it in my 20v as when my mate brought his mitsi cyborg import that had 95 put in and it barely ran so rather than risk it I've always used it.

But uk cars i dont see the point. Maybe once in a blue moon as a flush sort of thing but then i think thats more imagination as i cant see fuel making that much difference!

[yaristurbo]

Always mapped on v

[funny onion]

Never ran it and probably never will (mostly because I'm tight haha). Spent my first year at uni looking into chemical engineering etc. and how it can affect combustion rates and the other factors that can affect it also.

I agree, Unless the car is mapped for it, it won't make a shits worth of difference. On these cars the standard ecu wont see if higher octane fuel is going through, the engine shouldn't be knocking considerably on 95 (only if its been mapped for higher). Intake temps play a big role in the nature of the combustion. There are more things needed to improve performance other than just putting higher octane in alone.

Each to their own, and I do LOVE the smell of it!

[maddox710]

5th gear did an experiments with different ron fuels. Shell vpower showed the best bhp gain on the dyno

[Dan Barnes]

I always v power if possible, failing that bp ultimate