BabyBhp Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Hi people,I was just curious to no, whats the highest hp anyones made on the stock 1.3?I tried to search but didnt have much luck.ThanksYasir Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiCaln Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 i would say 200-210bhp anything more would be pushing it, but its all about the quality of the tune, if its good then u should be able to do more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 a good quality tune 250 bhp is possible, with the aid of a thicker headgasket more so, but only with a decent tune.the fhe is capable of 300 or there abouts with fte pistons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BabyBhp Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 What would be the risks, when taking the engine to the limit? Metled pistons, piston ring wear or something else?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BabyBhp Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 Orite do you no what the compression is of the standard pistons? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_Ragger Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Orite do you no what the compression is of the standard pistons?Have a look at Scutch's post in this section, about his underpowered glanza.I put the compression ratio in there bud.250hp is possible and more as Enzo stated, All depends on the tune. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BabyBhp Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 Who in the glanza world, would you guys say is a good tuner? Also what sort of ecu management systems do you guys prefer to use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_Ragger Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Who in the glanza world, would you guys say is a good tuner? Also what sort of ecu management systems do you guys prefer to use?Good tuner as in ECU mapping or engine work ?and ecu systems all come down to how much cash you have to spend, and what power and setup youre looking at running.Alot use apexi pwer fc's / greddy emanages etc, im going to be getting a dastek system fitted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BabyBhp Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 Yeh ecu mapping, yeh I couldve guesed it was those two ecu's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_Ragger Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Yeh ecu mapping, yeh I couldve guesed it was those two ecu's.Youll have fun finding a apexi pfc for a decent price.No point in getting one without the handheld commander , so if you do find one, try and either get hold of a hand held commander seperate, or see if its included.Emanage ultimates will map just as well as a power fc, for alot less cash.Saying that though, an emanage blue is even cheaper, you can get a whole setup with every harness for under £400.Only difference is the blue has a smaller map than the ultimate, im sure the blue has a 16x16 map, and the ultimates run 32x32? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 just remember not to forget the other important things like clutch, diff, and fueling.......Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BabyBhp Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 Yeh Greddy ultimate seems to be a good choice, which is easily available. There also abit more user freindly, then the pfc. I have the universal Datalogit for PFC, which allows me to tune through the laptop. But Greddy have abit more of an advance software. Also ive always thought the greddy blue, doesnt allow ignition manipulation?Clutch and fueling will definately play a big role in this, but whats wrong with the stock LSD? Or are you talking about stock diffs without the factory LSD? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_Ragger Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Yeh Greddy ultimate seems to be a good choice, which is easily available. There also abit more user freindly, then the pfc. I have the universal Datalogit for PFC, which allows me to tune through the laptop. But Greddy have abit more of an advance software. Also ive always thought the greddy blue, doesnt allow ignition manipulation?Clutch and fueling will definately play a big role in this, but whats wrong with the stock LSD? Or are you talking about stock diffs without the factory LSD?Stock LSD would be fine, but it depends how extreme you want to go.Both blue and ultimates have ignition and fuel maps.Just different size maps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BabyBhp Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 Ok cool, so with the greddy ems it all depends on how much boost you run. Its gota be ultimate all the way then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_Ragger Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Ok cool, so with the greddy ems it all depends on how much boost you run. Its gota be ultimate all the way then.How do you mean it all depends on what boost you run bud? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Enzo Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 But Greddy have abit more of an advance software. Also ive always thought the greddy blue, doesnt allow ignition manipulation?Clutch and fueling will definately play a big role in this, but whats wrong with the stock LSD? Or are you talking about stock diffs without the factory LSD?there arnt any really specialise in the tuning on a nationwide scale, there a few like ses,dastek and the like from toytuning but no one is dedicated to it which is a shamethe emaneg blue is just as good, you can get an ignition harness loom also for it,i had a mate up here who had a manopily on tuning these constantly fitting them charging 130 for an install and road tune, he unfortunatly passed away.can you fit and tune or are you familar with these engines? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BabyBhp Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 Glanza Ragger-On any fueling or ignition table, you have one axis with rpm and the other with load. Load is measured in KPA, im not sure what size map sensor the starlet has as standard, but at a gues id say it reads a maximum of 250kpa. Now with engine load, we all no that its going to increase, with increase of boost pressure. More airflow means more engine load. So this is where the blue could possibly limit you, it might be you can only tune upto 300kpa. Now just thinking that rpm would be fine to tune against, has made me think that the ultimate may have a bigger scale because the values on the axis may go up in smaller increments to allow finer tuning.Im sorry ive not had much experience with greddy, but im going to do abit of research. Ill let you guys no whats what Enzo-Well lucky for you guys, im a graduate from EFI unversity. Ive done the honda and motec course. And have been tuning for the past 2 years. Ive mainly been tuning hondas and supras. But that doesnt mean I cant help you guys out, with my knowledge I could tune a planes fueling system. So im pretty sure, I could help you guys out.Im very sorry for your friend whos passed away ;)You guys are going to have to introduce me to this ses and toy tuning, I havnt heard of these systems. But once ive looked at it, well let the fun begin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 i think youll be fine with the greddy ems, it can handle a 500bhp supra so it should be able to handle a startlet lol.Rob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BabyBhp Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 Yeh I no the greddy ems will do the job easily, its just a matter of how well it does its job. Its possible to make a apexi safc support a 800bhp supra. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Glanza_Ragger Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Enzo, whos SES bud ?That some company up youre way?Im sorry to hear about the chap passing away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 I think im going to go for a greddy ultimate and get it mapped in the near future, but i dont have a clue where i would take my gt? im from cumbria so theres no where around me that i know of. at the moment im using an apexi safc running 210bhp or just over at 14psi.So i need the greddy ultimate unit then i need to buy the ignicton and injector harnesses separetly right? or is there other things that i would need? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tintin_SR Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I think im going to go for a greddy ultimate and get it mapped in the near future, but i dont have a clue where i would take my gt? im from cumbria so theres no where around me that i know of. at the moment im using an apexi safc running 210bhp or just over at 14psi.So i need the greddy ultimate unit then i need to buy the ignicton and injector harnesses separetly right? or is there other things that i would need?Hi bud wear is it that you are from?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Cumbria, near workington cockermouth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BabyBhp Posted September 30, 2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2007 Bean- If your upto come to the midlands, id be more then happy to tune your car. Be it a street tune or rolling road tune. As for the ultimate, id just go for the complete harness kit.ThanksYasir Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WallaceGlanza Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 SES is specialist engine services somehwere done south not up here, Dave B uses them to get engine work done, they're meant to be pretty good. Also toy tuning is a company not an ecu.You can purchase a 3bar pressure sensor for the emanage and use it to tune instead of using the stock map sensor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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