slight panic! '95 gt advance emisions letter?

[Chops]

hi all, just failed an mot over emissions. The mot tester says i need a letter from toyota explaining that the enginge is incapable of passing british emissions standards, or some toss. Anyone know what hes referring to, or got one they could scan for me or summet? cheers fro any help!

[StuDoc 72]

What year?

He is refering to the rule. 1.6.3 mot emissions where it states.

(Different MOT testers can pass cars at their discretion please be aware some are complete and utter arseholes though)

[Chops]

1995 gt advance.

[russ78]

I may be wrong but pre 95 imports dont need a cat or even need to have an emissions test ??

Edited September 13, 2013 by russ78

[StuDoc 72]

Think its pre 94 unfortunately.

[Fozzie]

I thought any engine that wasn't officially available in the UK didn't have to meet emissions standards, so technically the 4EFTE is exempt?

[russ78]

I thought glanzas just missed the boat but gt's were safe ?

[StuDoc 72]

Any engine without a UK equivilent. 4efe is the UK equivilent and as a 4efte is turbo'd it should easily pass 4efe tests with the standard set up.

[H_D]

its pre 93 lol

[daniel_g]

Theres a lot of wrong info on this subject, mainly due to most MOT testers being wanks.

I'm training to be a MOT tester by the way lol.

Anyway, some info.

'The catalyst test is part of the MOT test for most spark ignition petrol engined passenger cars with four or more wheels first used on and after 1 August 1992'

Try this,

Vehicles Fitted with a different engine

Test according to which is older, engine or vehicle.

e.g. A 1995 car fitted with a 1991 engine (of whatever make), test to 1991 standards for emission purposes.

Note: Its down to the vehicle presenter

to prove engine age.

Since most starlets have had an engine swap its worth a shout

[daniel_g]

Also,

The vehicle will be tested according to its age from first use-The only exemption to this is if the vehicle owner can present to the tester at time of test a letter from the vehicle manufacturer stating that the particular engine as originally installed could not meet the equivalent British emission standards. If this is the case, then test to the next lower emission standard.

e.g. A 1995 car first used in Japan has a letter from the engine manufacturer stating that the particular engine (engine number to be stated) cannot meet Catalyst emission limits, then use the pre cat limits of CO 3.5%, HC )2000r pm.

Thats why you need a letter, according to your MOT tester.

[Chops]

yer thats the one, anyone got one handy lol? otherwise ill need a new zorst or a cat welded into mine

[pockrockgtti]

Just print this out give it to the tester. And if he argues, appeal to vosa.

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/3224/motcat.gif

[PaulStarletSR]

get ursel a friendly mot'er, job done.

i have 2 lol

[AdamB]

It goes under a non cat test as the UK doesn't have an engine equivelent.

[DevonGT]

Mines a 95 and passes a non cat test.

[Chops]

haha why does it all go wrong for me. im planning to decat, then go for a side exit anyway, so i might even go somewhere else if i cant get him to pass it

[AdamB]

Tell him to stop being a nob and do a non cat test, ive seen them pass even with a decat.

[pick1]

I've had my gt 6 years an the mot places I have been to av never even bothered to do a emission test they just look at the reg and go nah no point don't need it lol I must just be lucky lol

[Chops]

Bizzzarely, after handing my mot tester that chart thing and a bit of an arguement, it passed the cat test with just the precat lol. anyone know how that happened?