Ryan_EP82 GT Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) I noticed to be getting a bit of white smoke coming from the exhaust today and im not quite sure whether its a problem or if its normal. I haven't drove the car for near 7 months so i cant remember exactly how the exhaust smoke looked before.. It does it from start up and continues until the engine is warm, smoking enough to worry me to be honest.... and i do remember white smoke coming from the engine before it was rebuilt, and when the head gasket was removed then it was soaked in petrol (engine was over-fuelling but i dunno if thats why it would be). Anyway heres some pictures does anyone else's smoke like this.. Edited November 9, 2013 by Ryan_EP82 GT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russ78 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 could be anything bud did you get head rebuilt ie new valve stem seals ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan_EP82 GT Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 yes mate new Toyota valve stem seals put in.i thought they made blue smoke though ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russ78 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 na white for turbo seals and valve stem seals and loss of compression will blow white as well just outta curiousity have you done a compression test since rebuild ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Valve stems would give blue smoke on startup, if it's going on it could be head gasket - burning water… Are you losing any? Any smell of fuel in the cooling system? Pressure in there?Could be condensation, as it's getting cold (ambient temp) and it's also been sat have you given it chance to clear out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan_EP82 GT Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) na white for turbo seals and valve stem seals and loss of compression will blow white as well just outta curiousity have you done a compression test since rebuild ? No bud not yet actually, i only have a shitty ebay tester i dunno if it'll be up to the job. But i'll try get a hold of one and check ASAP..... around what psi am i looking for mate? I know it was 140psi from cylinders 1-3 and 70 on cyl4 when the ringlands had went. Valve stems would give blue smoke on startup, if it's going on it could be head gasket - burning water… Are you losing any? Any smell of fuel in the cooling system? Pressure in there?Could be condensation, as it's getting cold (ambient temp) and it's also been sat have you given it chance to clear out? Hoping its condensation, but not entirely convinced! I dont think i give it a chance to clear - the engine reached operating temperature and sat there for 5mins but the fan never kicked in so i turned it off... And it had a 20mile journey during which it lost a little water i must admit, but only a little. Couldn't smell fuel at all under the bonnet but i didnt smell around the radiator, and what about the pressure? Would pressure force water into the reservoir or what.. Edited November 6, 2013 by Ryan_EP82 GT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) You got the throttle body water/vac pipes the wright way round? if you dont have them the rite way round it will use water and smoking like a bitch Edited November 6, 2013 by micky boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 if theres a leak on the gasket or heads cracked/warped you'd get exhaust gasses forced into the coolant system, hard pipes and pressure in rad, I'd give it a good joinery and blast and see if it settles.did you have the head skimmed?whats the temp gauge do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan_EP82 GT Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 You got the throttle body water/vac pipes the wright way round? Have you a picture of yours so i can compare it to mine? Its a possibility mate.. if theres a leak on the gasket or heads cracked/warped you'd get exhaust gasses forced into the coolant system, hard pipes and pressure in rad, I'd give it a good joinery and blast and see if it settles.did you have the head skimmed?whats the temp gauge do? Yea mate the head was skimmed and a new Toyota hg fitted. The pipes didnt feel hard and i had left the radiator cap off to bleed the system at first and the water wasnt even jumping around on top - im guessing no pressure? It used to bubble and spit before the rebuild! The temp gauge sat at a constant working temp level, but after a few minutes i expected the fan to come on and it never.. (obv new fan switch required for peace of mind) ..so i switched it back off and left it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan_EP82 GT Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 And i had the head and block pressure tested TurboTobz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 sounds good, i'd go take it out now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) I can get you some pics tomorrow if you like mate? just its abit to dark atm! ive also edited my post above now sure if you noticed or not Edited November 6, 2013 by micky boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Heres a pic of the VAC/water lines.I doubt yours are wrong though because you'd have most likely used all your water on a 20 mile run.I reckon its down to the very low temps we're getting atm.Keep an eye on it though Ryan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russ78 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 As above probably nothing but piece of mind do a compression test imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan_EP82 GT Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 sounds good, i'd go take it out now! It needs wheel alignment first mate its a bit off at the minute from fitting new track rod ends. thanks for letting me know I can get you some pics tomorrow if you like mate? just its abit to dark atm! ive also edited my post above now sure if you noticed or not I just seen it there mate, hope it is something minor like a wrong arrangement or cold temps. Daniel just threw up a cracking pic but cheers mate, appreciate it.Heres a pic of the VAC/water lines.I doubt yours are wrong though because you'd have most likely used all your water on a 20 mile run.I reckon its down to the very low temps we're getting atm.Keep an eye on it though Ryan. Thanks alot buddy thats a great help, ill go grab a torch and have a check to be safe. I hope it is man, its due a little bit of work then ill be keeping an eye on it the next while and report back. Does yours smoke much when its cold?Again, thanks for your helpAs above probably nothing but piece of mind do a compression test imoI will indeed mate cheers anyone know roughly what psi to hope for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
russ78 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 On freshly rebuilt engine should be around 170psi bud Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Ive never ran a starlet in the cold so i couldnt tell ya mate, but my daily does.Healthy FTE should be equal or as near as across all 4 and your looking for 160/170 figure. Possibly more if its just rebuilt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan_EP82 GT Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 Thanks boys i will report back when ive found out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 In the cold 4efte's do show a little bit of white smoke yeah, it's had me worried a few times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan_EP82 GT Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 In the cold 4efte's do show a little bit of white smoke yeah, it's had me worried a few times. I must say it was pretty cold outside but i thought the white smoke might have went away at working temperature which it didnt seem to..am i right in thinking that? Or would it have a slight white smoke during cold temperatures regardless of engine temperature? Guess i'll soon find out when its back on the road. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 It's steam basically, your exhaust probably has a lot of moisture in it from 7 months of SFA lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan_EP82 GT Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 It's steam basically, your exhaust probably has a lot of moisture in it from 7 months of SFA lol Aaaah. The penny drops lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) KaChing! Best of luck buddy, I'm a bit of a OCD worrier with engines lol slightest strange sound and thats it got the bastard apart Edited November 6, 2013 by TurboTobz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan_EP82 GT Posted November 6, 2013 Author Share Posted November 6, 2013 Lol.. I know exactly how you feel mate, i've only owned the GT a year and half that its been getting rebuilt so any wonder!Im hopeful but still not convinced about the cold temp thing until i know for sure thats the problem. Until then ill just worry my nutsack off everytime i look at it! haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Well, even if it is at worst something head related top end is relatively easy work in comparison to an entire build Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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