Rock-Kick-Ass Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 the poor man, i hope it was as peaceful.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Rip Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glanzadude Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Yea seen that alright was some man RIP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pick1 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 He achieved a lot on one life time a great man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 one man terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Achieved great things he did. Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryan lang Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 genuinely shocked that some people over the age of 17-18 dont know who he is? just read some girl say, 'its not like he was a major public figure or anything......' ffs! RIP to a great man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 The issue is with what you are taught in school! Started to google some of his actions etc after he died, turns out they missed out a lot about him. Do some googling on the 'other side of Nelson Mandela' and it will change your opinion..did with me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Addymk2 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 one man terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Achieved great things he did. PhilAchieved great things, did some attrocious things, well said and RIP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arnold Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I don't really know enough of his history but everywhere reports he was a great man and inspiration, yet I've read stories that he used to throw grenades on buses with children on, so what am i missing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Achieved great things, did some attrocious things, well said and RIP I don't really know enough of his history but everywhere reports he was a great man and inspiration, yet I've read stories that he used to throw grenades on buses with children on, so what am i missing? Yeah it really depends on positional accountability from an individuals perspective. personally i can imagine myself as a murderer just fine, circumstance dependant so i have no problem forgiving another, and its not a matter of forgiving someone who turned about and said here i was wrong please forgive me, its that he fought killed, murdered. then people realised that despite the violent uprising, it wasnt the terrorists that were wrong it was the government and apartheid regime. Quite unlike islamic extremists, and therefore quite unlike any modern terrorists. he fought and terrorised, because basic human rights were not given to his people. not for religion not for land Phil Edited December 6, 2013 by Philm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Addymk2 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Yeah it really depends on positional accountability from an individuals perspective. personally i can imagine myself as a murderer just fine, circumstance dependant so i have no problem forgiving another, and its not a matter of forgiving someone who turned about and said here i was wrong please forgive me, its that he fought killed, murdered. then people realised that despite the violent uprising, it wasnt the terrorists that were wrong it was the government and apartheid regime. Quite unlike islamic extremists, and therefore quite unlike any modern terrorists. he fought and terrorised, because basic human rights were not given to his people. not for religion not for land PhilHis people were legally classed as second rate citizens hence his approach. Every great man has a little bit of psycopath in him somewhere! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Now its switched round really, white people are now victims. During the time many white farmers were shot for land etc, similar to in Zimbabwe. Its still not a fair country and far from safe. Mandela fought for freedom etc but still made close friends with alot of dictators including gadaffi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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