Bussey Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Has anybody got any links to someone that has done this in a build? Would be interested to see what the spool times and useable rpm were. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Check out result 13 on the power leaderboard... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bussey Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 Check out result 13 on the power leaderboard...Can I have a link to it please mate ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 http://www.s314kba.co.uk/leaderboard/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bussey Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 http://www.s314kba.co.uk/leaderboard/Cheers fella Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikey4410 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 wicked power for sure with a td06 but usuable power ? prob 1000 rpms worth. you need USABLE power ideally mate and while its hugely impressive and i take my hat of to them especially sir burwash himself god rest his soul,i think dave especially did it just to see what he could squeeze out of starlet engines as a credit to just how well bilt they are etc. i even worry that my td04 isnt gonna be usable on a track compared to a ct9. but i guess everybody has different power requirements and wants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 A useable powerband is what its all about... All well and good strapping a hugh turbo to these cars... but if it spools at 5000rpm.... It'll not be much fun on a country road... A decent td05/gt28 turbo can be made to spool similar to a td04 giving you a much wider powerband making a much more useable and fun street car! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jayc-glanza17 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 having een in daves gt, it was track usuable, not road usuable with a td06..but headstuds will be needed.imo its too large for a starlet, look at the garret turbos they offer better spool for similar power. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banbury Glanza Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 What about a VF turbo ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzy Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I reckon a ct9 hybrid or td04 would be just as fun with getting the power down too much power is useless power imo with us been lightweight and fwd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 you would nead to raise the limiter to 8.5 stock limit is for the tdo4 ish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 What about a VF turbo ??Exactly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzy Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Toff's build it's all there lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikey4410 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) yeah i think td04 tops is what i would ever use. its bad enough lag on a td04 compared to ct9 a car with linear power is alot quicker round a track than a car with a huge turbo with poor spool rate and yeah there are turbos out there with same spool as td04 but bigger ,most with ball bearing but they are more than the usual £60-80 we spend on td04s !!!! Edited March 26, 2014 by mikey4410 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jayc-glanza17 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 td04s really are not laggy, once properly mapped.. hell my td05 isn't far off a td04 spool time.. td05/gt28 is really as big as a starlet needs.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richardc9052 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 i would imagine a td06 on a 5e would spool like a td05 on a 4e Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bussey Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 i would imagine a td06 on a 5e would spool like a td05 on a 4eThis is what was tickling my brain? Cheers for all the comments though lads, wanted to try and stay journal bearing, purely for the reliability I've heard about ball bearing turbos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Taggy Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 looking at the power graphs on the leaderboard a TD06 is a pile of wank, it doesnt even get going until 5500RPM!! and thats on a 5e on a 4e i dont even think it would be usable, on paper it looks impressive because you do get peak power for about 1000 of usable RPM, but are you really going to drive your car everywhere doing 6000RPM just to get on boost lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bussey Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 looking at the power graphs on the leaderboard a TD06 is a pile of wank, it doesnt even get going until 5500RPM!! and thats on a 5e on a 4e i dont even think it would be usable, on paper it looks impressive because you do get peak power for about 1000 of usable RPM, but are you really going to drive your car everywhere doing 6000RPM just to get on boost lolCheers for clearing that up mate, didn't think to look at the graph. Like everyone's said I think it's going to be horrendously un-useable haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 All depends what you want from the car dude. If you want to stay journal bearing and want a good amount of power then a VF30 is what youre after. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikey4410 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) this is what i am getting at ....USABLE POWER. as i said dave @ tm wanted to see just what he could get out of these engines and he did a great job. if i could be bothered to run an external wastegate and a jam ecu i would probably run a ct9 hybrid tbh as the powers superb all the way through and would suit track and fast road very well. lag sucks balls and not all of us wanna spend thousands of management when these cars can be perfectly fun and drivable with ct9s and maybe hybrids/tdo4s ad standard ecu Edited March 26, 2014 by mikey4410 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Can get really good usable power with a well set up TD04 kit. I was getting 1bar @ about 3.4K RPM. AVCR and short IC pipes are which helped the most.Best thing with a TD flange kit is if you get bored you can just whip it off and fire a decent VF on there as its the same fitment obviously. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikey4410 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 what i am getting it is how early a ct9 hybrid kicks in fully. does make a big differnce to how a car drives Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jayep91 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I ran a td06 and it was fun but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Far better turbos out there you could use Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 This is what was tickling my brain?Cheers for all the comments though lads, wanted to try and stay journal bearing, purely for the reliability I've heard about ball bearing turbos almost and you can use the acis to spool up faster to !!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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