garrygt Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 im after some advice for a few things I've got planned in the future. id be looking at running some sort of garrett gtx maybe...looking for 400 brake, was wondering what sort of options i would have by possibly making a hybrid to reduce spool time but still give me the power i want. are there any other turbos out there besides garrett that would do the job better? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 There is only 1 turbo kit out there that I know of that spools like a TD04L yet manages 400bhp at the same time...and that's this one:http://www.race-tech.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=50_45&products_id=81 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_shaun_ Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I'd try the lads at zisco I've got a cheeky turbo set up built by them rated for 400+bhp. If your wanting numbers like that might aswell goto the lads setting world records for fastest starlets Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 400hp, front wheel drive.. you lot make me laugh. Fit a GT25 and go fast everywhere, not just in a straight line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 400hp, front wheel drive.. you lot make me laugh. Fit a GT25 and go fast everywhere, not just in a straight line.again I fully agree with this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_shaun_ Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Down to personal preference realy I have a drag strip a lot closer to home than I do a track. And going for a day out on the quater mile generally is a lot cheaper than a day at the track. Also going fast everywhere! Is a lovely notion but I live in a wee town not a fast and the furious set so the local police prob would have something to say about spooling up my gt25 as I cruise though the 20 mile an hour town center Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 There is only 1 turbo kit out there that I know of that spools like a TD04L yet manages 400bhp at the same time... and that's this one:http://www.race-tech.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=50_45&products_id=81Is that actually proven yet though ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I wouldn't spend the extra money on a GTX over a GT series, it's been proven that they spool the same and the billet wheel of the GTX doesn't decrease spool time and generally provides circa 10% more flow up top., A GT28 of somesort would be ideal, no bigger in trim size than the 71 size or you end up with a lot of lag and not much more power. It will touch you close to 400bhp.Or something custom like this http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/69854-brand-new-450bhp-custom-garrett-gt28-turbo-kit-new-pics/?hl=garrett Or if you want then best then this http://www.full-race.com/store/turbos/borgwarner-efr/borgwarner-efr-6258-turbo.html But goodluck trying to find someone who will make a manifold for a reasonable price lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maddox710 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 400hp, front wheel drive.. you lot make me laugh. Fit a GT25 and go fast everywhere, not just in a straight line. Agreed will provide relative quick spool and push close to 300bhp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garrygt Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 the turbo kit im going for will give me 350 brake just now as it is. the car will be getting used around the track and backroads no matter what set up im using, although i did state i was looking for a turbo with minimum lag. cheers for your input lads, adamb that turbo looks ideal....surely wouldnt be too hard to get wepr or zisco to make up a mani for me. also im putting my gt to that power for a wee while just so i can push the boundries a bit, most would say its pointless and i would almost agree, but then how many people can say they have pumped 400 brake through a 1.3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garrygt Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 400hp, front wheel drive.. you lot make me laugh. Fit a GT25 and go fast everywhere, not just in a straight line.hows about have a big turbo and big balls and still go fast everywhere ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdamB Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 the turbo kit im going for will give me 350 brake just now as it is. the car will be getting used around the track and backroads no matter what set up im using, although i did state i was looking for a turbo with minimum lag. cheers for your input lads, adamb that turbo looks ideal....surely wouldnt be too hard to get wepr or zisco to make up a mani for me. also im putting my gt to that power for a wee while just so i can push the boundries a bit, most would say its pointless and i would almost agree, but then how many people can say they have pumped 400 brake through a 1.3 You would need to sent them the turbo mate because its longer than the usual Garrett turbo's by 3 inches, even though it uses the same T25 flange as the likes of GT28/GT30 etc it shifts the downpipe positioning . Race-Tech wanted over £1000 for a mani and downpipe combo when I was going to get one, that's why I said reasonable haha. If your interested I could potentially hook you up with an idea that I was going to do but would need a bit of fabrication work to get it to fit It's alright having 400bhp and isn't hard to do, it's just that its not practical to do so, there's no replacement for displacement. The 2 main problems I found with the 4E was that the engine is too small and the compression ratio is too low .Ideally it would have been better with a minimum of a 1.5 L engine size and 9.5:1 compression ratio. My opinion of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris_GlanzaV98 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 There is only 1 turbo kit out there that I know of that spools like a TD04L yet manages 400bhp at the same time... and that's this one:http://www.race-tech.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=50_45&products_id=81imo for a similar price wepr do the same sort of kit only top mounted as standard im sure and tbh looks alot better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Is that actually proven yet though ? Next Week All Being Well ;) imo for a similar price wepr do the same sort of kit only top mounted as standard im sure and tbh looks alot better Ive seen them both with my own eyes. Inside and Out. I know what I'd purchase... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Undoubtedly the wepr kit, sachas bits are covered by lifetime guarantee shows his confidence in his work. Have a brand new topmount kit here from him it's very well made, excellent quality! His customer service was above any I have ever experienced and tailored for my ever need! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Undoubtedly the wepr kit, sachas bits are covered by lifetime guarantee shows his confidence in his work. Have a brand new topmount kit here from him it's very well made, excellent quality! His customer service was above any I have ever experienced and tailored for my ever need! I have NO issue with WEPR stuff Tobz... Its excellent... I certainly don't have an issue with his customer service either as I hear its outstanding... Have u got a pic of the inside of the collector on your kit? Just out of interest... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I have NO issue with WEPR stuff Tobz... Its excellent... I certainly don't have an issue with his customer service either as I hear its outstanding...Have u got a pic of the inside of the collector on your kit?Just out of interest...I wasn't meaning to make it sound as though you do have any issues my apologies, been up since ungodly oclock and it's taking it's toll lol.I haven't but I can get some and show you if you'd like! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I wasn't meaning to make it sound as though you do have any issues my apologies, been up since ungodly oclock and it's taking it's toll lol. I haven't but I can get some and show you if you'd like! Id love to if you could buddy! Leme no! That's fine mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Got them, can't see it awfully well but it's as clear as they can be. Can whatsapp or facebook them to you, kitkat update deleted some of my apps so I can't host and post at the mo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Like Adam has basically covered id go with a re-worked GT(x)2871, imo you could get very close on a 2860 with a decent compression engine, built head and a competent ecu & mapper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garrygt Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 cheers for the input boys. if u feel like sharing adam drop me a pm, my engine has wossner pistons and a 1.2mm head gasket, head has been skimmed but comp will still be low. dont want to fork out on another build. if i did it would be a 5e anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 400hp, front wheel drive.. you lot make me laugh. Fit a GT25 and go fast everywhere, not just in a straight line. That's the wonderful thing... My car will hopefully make 400bhp at 2bar of boost next week. All being well... However, I can run at lower boost or even gate pressure... Making the car driveable by even a fwd noob if needs be! Can adjust and run more or less boost for different conditions, surfaces, tyres and tracks/strips What I find a bit crazy... Is when people fit a huge turbo, that's literally bigger then the engine... It spools at 6500rpm and makes the car a straight liner only... but of course this is just my opinion! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yaristurbo Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Is just want people do, everyone will doing something different think how boring the world would be if not Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Is just want people do, everyone will doing something different think how boring the world would be if not I know, I myself have tried a lot of stuff that hasn't worked too good... Its all about being different and unique... Just my opinion of course Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maddox710 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 We will be like the Honda boys soon lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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