Jay2ohh Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Fitted new engine in, everything worked before only problem was someone put battery on wrong wayChanged fuses, changed ecu etc everything's sorted everything's fine, the only problem now is that I have no engine light on ignition and no sparkTested a friends coil where king lead plugs in, done spark test etc no joy but it's not gonna start without eml onChecked the pin out diagram for ecu and checked the wires also they seem to look okay also no fried/meltedStill got no joy and it's got to the point I'm thinking of breaking it, I've rang auto sparkys round here and they're all booked up for over 2 weeks, it's a joke now and just generally putting me down tbh 😩😩Also, starlet ecus don't have transponder codes do they?/immobiliser?1996 spec ep91 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikey4410 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 god knows what damage the reverse polarity has caused :-( dunno what else to suggest to you mate.u seem to have covered most of the first port of calls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aaddzz123 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 All earth's in place? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikey4410 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 yeah thats a good point.easy to forget if replacing engine as theres two at least that go from engine to engine bay chassis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_shaun_ Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 the metal bracket to the ignitor needs to be earthed thats where most people go wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jordan walker Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 the metal bracket to the ignitor needs to be earthed thats where most people go wrongWhat Shaun said I replaced the bolts in mine with them fancy Chinese washer things and it didn't like it at all I had to put the original bolts back in! I had the exact same problem with mine I'm guessing your fuel pump isn't priming niether? 99% sure it's an earth pal it probably looks like they're all theyre and all intact but so where mine! Check make sure all your original ones are earthed nice and tight with a good contact and if that doesn't work get a friend to sit in the car and watch the eml light If you get a decent wire and earth one end to the chassis and touch the other end in different places starting with the icv I loads of different parts in your engine bay turning your ignition on and off every time you try a different place this is how I found mine lol it's tedious and sounds like a long shot but give it a go!I pulled my alarm out and all sorts man I know how you feel it drives you mad! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I had mine cable tied to the strut brace for ages Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_shaun_ Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 The coil doesn't need earthed the igniter 100% does mine sits inside the car now and wouldn't fire at all till I earthed it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jay2ohh Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 Yeah I've got fuel I've got it all BUT an eml on ignition turn and no spark it's driving me mental lads, earths are sound and the igniter has been checked, I've scoured Google and threads for days and days and checked pretty much everything to the point where I'm getting excited again if I find a thread I haven't covered lol 🙈 its boggling me so much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5T4R7ET N/A Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Put some pictures up of the earths. I think starlets do come with transponder box, it's for the key. It has be the original starlet key or a key that has been programmed for that box.For example black box on right next to ecu http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/330919821933?nav=SEARCH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
funny onion Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Do you have a friend with another ecu you can try? even if the wires/plugs look ok you could've damaged the components on the circuit board. worth a try Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 worst case scenario rip out full loom open and inspect it probly burnt tru somewhere eu might be fried to as funny onion mentioned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aaddzz123 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 He's changed the ecu guys. Says in op ;p. Only time I've heard of all lights working but not the eml is when an earth wasn't connected onto the inlet. Other options are melted wires which I'm afraid means some tedious work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jay2ohh Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 He's changed the ecu guys. Says in op ;p. Only time I've heard of all lights working but not the eml is when an earth wasn't connected onto the inlet. Other options are melted wires which I'm afraid means some tedious work.Found a black and yellow wire from the smallest plug on the ecu that looks like it's had some heat passed through it, got the pin out diagram but my brain frazzled and can't work out which one it is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 pic ^^^^^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aaddzz123 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Post a picture up as Colin said matey. Black will be an earth and yellow could be anything. Likely to be something of a power source though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arnold Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) When i did this on my Glanza, it blew the 100A slow blow fuse and the car wouldn't start. A new one of those in and everything was fine, luckily. Looks like this Edited March 23, 2015 by Arnold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
funny onion Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 When i did this on my Glanza, it blew the 100A slow blow fuse and the car wouldn't start. A new one of those in and everything was fine, luckily. Where is that located on the car? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arnold Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Where is that located on the car? Fuse box in the engine bay. It's bolted in from underneath but easy enough to change Edited March 23, 2015 by Arnold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 When i did this on my Glanza, it blew the 100A slow blow fuse and the car wouldn't start. A new one of those in and everything was fine, luckily. Looks like this A friend of mine had a honda crx in his garage and Someone put the battery on wrong way round and this fuse was the issue on that car 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jay2ohh Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 I changed all fuses they kept blowing, so got another ecu and that put my electrics right properly and the fuses stopped blowing, sent it to an electrics garage said my coil was knackered replaced that, they tested couple of wires from ecu and said there was 2 voltages, corrected that so its 12v only, even ran there own feed said that didn't do anythingTested new coil and it's not got continuity, different readings off that, distributor is distributing but still no sparkThere telling me something about an amplifier? No idea but problem still exists I have no spark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aaddzz123 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 There are two units that are before the king lead. Have you changed both? They're separate on the 91 but picture in link below what they both look like (from an ep82 but still the same).http://www.jdm-ep.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=131_153&products_id=513If still no luck then I'd probably start stripping wires back with the intention of swapping it all, and hopefully you'll find the problem in the process...Worst case scenario change all the wiring. Engine loom and interior... If you do decide this, let me know as I have a glanza I can get a full loom from for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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