fresh build bottom end gone??

[turbominicooper]

Toyota stock the oem shell bearings

part numbers are these are for pistons 13041-11030

these are for crank bearings 11701-10012

when people say Toyota stock them is that just a case of going to my local dealer and ordering them or is there a national number to call etc?

about the bearings use thes for standard size

same but cheaper then mr toyo

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JDM-TAIHO-MAIN-CON-ROD-ENGINE-BEARING-SET-STARLET-GT-TURBO-EP82-EP91-4E-FTE-STD-/301458536571?hash=item463054387b:g:JGwAAOSwnDxUkG9B

if it needs a grind it will be main dealer and 20e per chel 2 on a conrod so 40euros plus vat ontop so you get an idea of pricing 200/220euros

that bearing kit is super cheap at £65!

thinking its best just to send it off and get it looked at, just need someone south with a quick turn around time.

A few links here mate please do read

http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?27569-4EFTE-Torque-Specs

http://www.autotechl.com/MATChapters/EngineMeasurementsBottomEnd2.pdf

http://mearcatmini.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/tutorial-bottom-end-bearings-main-seals.html?m=1

http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?61865-engine-bearing-info-needed-please!&highlight=22222

Now I know they mention ACL bearings in this but my own opinion I would go genuine TOYOTA bearings

ive read a few of your 2's conversations before, will have a good read whilst my cranks getting sorted.

thanks for all the input all, much appreciated

[patman]

You can pop into a Toyota dealer if there's one near like I did or ring up your nearest one, if I remember you say I need a set or big end and mains for a (your make and model and year of car) this is where they will say what size for the main set and what size for the big end set, as there's 3 different sizes, hence why when the crank journals are measured to the nearest thousand (do big ends first write it down, then mains and write it down) then go to one of the links and it tells you the sizes, then your know what your need for your mains and then you big ends, I hope this makes sense mate

Also just relised what's going on with the thrust washers too are they ok or will you need to order them too

Edited November 9, 2015 by patman

[turbominicooper]

i am going to get all new; main, big and thrust.

just need to wait for the work to be done on the crank then ill know what size i need to get.

[patman]

They should know mate to be fair make sure you tell the place to measure each journal and write it down for you, and needs to be measured in 000.0 not 000 if I remember rightly

[5e colin]

0.000 patman

[patman]

That's the one Colin mate cheers for the tip

[turbominicooper]

Right so I've sent it off. After speaking with the guy he asked if he wanted me to price up bearings for the crank; is it best to pay for the service for the sake of getting the correct size etc or just tell them no and get myself?

[5e colin]

ask him but ask what type of bearings he can get you dont want those wax motor factors bearings they sell

tell him they need to put up of turbo abuse

Edited November 10, 2015 by 5e colin

[StuDoc 72]

Cheaper to do it yourself, but you could always let him charge on and do it just tell him to use toyota bearings, then if it goes tits up again it will be his problem and you will be his favourite customer lol.

[turbominicooper]

Cheaper to do it yourself, but you could always let him charge on and do it just tell him to use toyota bearings, then if it goes tits up again it will be his problem and you will be his favourite customer lol.

harsh but true

[Dean_mc88]

just because im going through the same issue with mine what is standard size of the crank?

[5e colin]

^^^^ there is no standard size they are al diferent size

[Dean_mc88]

Ah right fair enough ive just measured mine and there all the same, around 40.000 and the bigger parts are around 47.000

That's a crank I have bought that is not the damaged one

Edited November 16, 2015 by Dean_mc88

[5e colin]

ya dean around is not good enough it needs to be spot on or it will be a self destruct engine

get a spec sheet out mate and measure and compare tolerances only then you can check wich ( stok ) size you need

5 on block

3 on the rods

so 8 stock sizes in there

or you could chance it and go moterfactors ask for a stock size and hope al turns out well

Edited November 16, 2015 by 5e colin

[Dean_mc88]

I have exact sizes just wasn't going to list them all lol I'm a fully qualified engineer so all the equipment in work is spot on however I will be getting more than myself to measure just to clarify

[turbominicooper]

right chaps, my crank has been repaired (by Park Engineering - thanks funnyonion) and ive been told I need:

mains 0.25
Big Ends 0.25
Thrusts std

Does anyone have the genuine Toyota numbers handy for these sizes?

cheers

[Dean_mc88]

if your going to Toyota for parts surly you could tell them the number on the crank then say its undersize by 0.25?

If got one of my mates in Toyota looking into it for me complete bottom end bearing kit my crank is within tolerance from original spec so its a lot easier for me.

£76 pound just for big end bearings so im expecting a bit of a bill for the full set

[Mad Mike EP82]

ACLs are fine my engine did 45000 of hard track abuse looked like new when I rebuilt my engine!!

Also freshly built engine that had only seen idle oil looks very black and your block is very dirty IMO.

[Ollieh17]

taiho bearings that colin posted are made in Japan and cheaper. They supply Oem to alot of manufacturers. Contact them, they may make oversize. They manage to source some for a charade

Edited November 19, 2015 by Ollieh17

[Dean_mc88]

Yea but theirs 3 types so how do you know your getting the correct ones, also I've looked up the part numbers they have give and it doesn't seem to match, main bearing says 11701-10011 but when you look it up on toyodiy that part number should be 11701-10012 - 1,2 or 3

[Ollieh17]

You ask them.

[Dean_mc88]

yea spoke to the guy a quick email to them and they have STD 0.25 U/S AND 0.50 U/S

[5e colin]

right chaps, my crank has been repaired (by Park Engineering - thanks funnyonion) and ive been told I need:

mains 0.25

Big Ends 0.25

Thrusts std

Does anyone have the genuine Toyota numbers handy for these sizes?

cheers

did they write down the loube sizes for you ??? start measuring again id say and also bolt all the cap on the block again and measure to , write down and compare

[turbominicooper]

did they write down the loube sizes for you ??? start measuring again id say and also bolt all the cap on the block again and measure to , write down and compare

no i asked this and he said all i needed to know was that i was to order 0.25 big/mains

[5e colin]

ha ha what a gobshite to fucking lasy to measure

you will have to do it now

Edited November 19, 2015 by 5e colin