turbominicooper Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Toyota stock the oem shell bearingspart numbers are these are for pistons 13041-11030these are for crank bearings 11701-10012when people say Toyota stock them is that just a case of going to my local dealer and ordering them or is there a national number to call etc? about the bearings use thes for standard size same but cheaper then mr toyo http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JDM-TAIHO-MAIN-CON-ROD-ENGINE-BEARING-SET-STARLET-GT-TURBO-EP82-EP91-4E-FTE-STD-/301458536571?hash=item463054387b:g:JGwAAOSwnDxUkG9B if it needs a grind it will be main dealer and 20e per chel 2 on a conrod so 40euros plus vat ontop so you get an idea of pricing 200/220euros that bearing kit is super cheap at £65! thinking its best just to send it off and get it looked at, just need someone south with a quick turn around time. A few links here mate please do readhttp://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?27569-4EFTE-Torque-Specshttp://www.autotechl.com/MATChapters/EngineMeasurementsBottomEnd2.pdfhttp://mearcatmini.blogspot.co.uk/2010/07/tutorial-bottom-end-bearings-main-seals.html?m=1http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/showthread.php?61865-engine-bearing-info-needed-please!&highlight=22222Now I know they mention ACL bearings in this but my own opinion I would go genuine TOYOTA bearings ive read a few of your 2's conversations before, will have a good read whilst my cranks getting sorted. thanks for all the input all, much appreciated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) You can pop into a Toyota dealer if there's one near like I did or ring up your nearest one, if I remember you say I need a set or big end and mains for a (your make and model and year of car) this is where they will say what size for the main set and what size for the big end set, as there's 3 different sizes, hence why when the crank journals are measured to the nearest thousand (do big ends first write it down, then mains and write it down) then go to one of the links and it tells you the sizes, then your know what your need for your mains and then you big ends, I hope this makes sense mateAlso just relised what's going on with the thrust washers too are they ok or will you need to order them too Edited November 9, 2015 by patman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbominicooper Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 i am going to get all new; main, big and thrust. just need to wait for the work to be done on the crank then ill know what size i need to get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 They should know mate to be fair make sure you tell the place to measure each journal and write it down for you, and needs to be measured in 000.0 not 000 if I remember rightly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 0.000 patman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 That's the one Colin mate cheers for the tip Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbominicooper Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 Right so I've sent it off. After speaking with the guy he asked if he wanted me to price up bearings for the crank; is it best to pay for the service for the sake of getting the correct size etc or just tell them no and get myself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) ask him but ask what type of bearings he can get you dont want those wax motor factors bearings they sell tell him they need to put up of turbo abuse Edited November 10, 2015 by 5e colin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Cheaper to do it yourself, but you could always let him charge on and do it just tell him to use toyota bearings, then if it goes tits up again it will be his problem and you will be his favourite customer lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbominicooper Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 Cheaper to do it yourself, but you could always let him charge on and do it just tell him to use toyota bearings, then if it goes tits up again it will be his problem and you will be his favourite customer lol. harsh but true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean_mc88 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 just because im going through the same issue with mine what is standard size of the crank? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 ^^^^ there is no standard size they are al diferent size Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean_mc88 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Ah right fair enough ive just measured mine and there all the same, around 40.000 and the bigger parts are around 47.000 That's a crank I have bought that is not the damaged one Edited November 16, 2015 by Dean_mc88 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) ya dean around is not good enough it needs to be spot on or it will be a self destruct engine get a spec sheet out mate and measure and compare tolerances only then you can check wich ( stok ) size you need 5 on block 3 on the rods so 8 stock sizes in there or you could chance it and go moterfactors ask for a stock size and hope al turns out well Edited November 16, 2015 by 5e colin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean_mc88 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I have exact sizes just wasn't going to list them all lol I'm a fully qualified engineer so all the equipment in work is spot on however I will be getting more than myself to measure just to clarify Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbominicooper Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 right chaps, my crank has been repaired (by Park Engineering - thanks funnyonion) and ive been told I need: mains 0.25Big Ends 0.25Thrusts std Does anyone have the genuine Toyota numbers handy for these sizes? cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean_mc88 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 if your going to Toyota for parts surly you could tell them the number on the crank then say its undersize by 0.25? If got one of my mates in Toyota looking into it for me complete bottom end bearing kit my crank is within tolerance from original spec so its a lot easier for me. £76 pound just for big end bearings so im expecting a bit of a bill for the full set Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Mike EP82 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 ACLs are fine my engine did 45000 of hard track abuse looked like new when I rebuilt my engine!! Also freshly built engine that had only seen idle oil looks very black and your block is very dirty IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) taiho bearings that colin posted are made in Japan and cheaper. They supply Oem to alot of manufacturers. Contact them, they may make oversize. They manage to source some for a charade Edited November 19, 2015 by Ollieh17 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean_mc88 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Yea but theirs 3 types so how do you know your getting the correct ones, also I've looked up the part numbers they have give and it doesn't seem to match, main bearing says 11701-10011 but when you look it up on toyodiy that part number should be 11701-10012 - 1,2 or 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 You ask them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean_mc88 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 yea spoke to the guy a quick email to them and they have STD 0.25 U/S AND 0.50 U/S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 right chaps, my crank has been repaired (by Park Engineering - thanks funnyonion) and ive been told I need: mains 0.25Big Ends 0.25Thrusts std Does anyone have the genuine Toyota numbers handy for these sizes? cheers did they write down the loube sizes for you ??? start measuring again id say and also bolt all the cap on the block again and measure to , write down and compare Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbominicooper Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 did they write down the loube sizes for you ??? start measuring again id say and also bolt all the cap on the block again and measure to , write down and compare no i asked this and he said all i needed to know was that i was to order 0.25 big/mains Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) ha ha what a gobshite to fucking lasy to measure you will have to do it now Edited November 19, 2015 by 5e colin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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