Takes less effort to make an EP look boyracery/chavvy than it does to make it looks like an enthusiasts car. thats why most fail to live the EP dream for long/life. Personally i love EP82s but you rarely see anything nice these days, sure they are plenty of expensive ep82/91 on the forums. People go jdmtrackslag quickly and forget that they will never be nipping to Fuji speedway or Tsubuka at the weekends. Sigh. anyways im off to see about cutting a a lump out of my bumper to make sure my oil cooler gets plenty of air - will check this thread later LOL Phil