yeah, thats them geo... im trying to be different again, trying to not do black, as its been done soo much now, but it'll be simular! cheers bud. yeah, the foglight needs to go, but i just cant find anywhere else to put it! any suggestions?? i was considering getting a n/a central brake light and wiring it up as a fog... ;) will do! ;) yeah it does, what did you do with the top attachment on yours bud? as i was a bit unsure what to do with it!! yeah bud, they would be your old rims... its a bit of a secret at the mo... and its gonna be totally different... as i said above, trying to stray away from black! cheers anywho bro yeah, i actually dont find them that bad... as i have the tanbe springs too... the ride is still quite comfortable, but stiffens up like a bitch in the twistys! these are the wheels im on about... (this is before the refurb by the way) Rich.