I agree mate which is why when I try to read up on em I get confused if u like t which one would be best for me or for my particular needs I mean at the mo I'm running emanage blue and that does the job for what I need at the mo but if I carried on and went for a better spec then I would be open to the such of a standalone but tbh I would probably speak with the tuner at the time and see what there input would be so I don't spend money on something that I would never use to its potential