Bit of a silly thing going on about VXR's on a starlet website, alot of people will be biased, i've owned corsa turbo's before, and yeah, a starlet may be faster in some respects, but which will be the better all rounder??? The VXR's are designed to be fast, comfortable, civil and affordable cars, they do all those jobs very well. They are two totally different cars, and in capable hands, both can do some serious damage, but its not how much power a car puts out, or how well it handles, aslong as it does what you want it to, thats what a good car is, besides, my old corsa gsi used to kill glanzas so nerrrrrr Damien