and thats why G is a moderator. because he has the strongest e-slap on the internet. here's how i stand. U PM'd me a while back, I said talk to Geo. You have attempted to do so, but as yet obviously u have not had a reply. so, u have attempted to go about gaining trader status the right way. however, this thread, it is a little cheeky, no??? hence G's reply. which has a point. how ever, as Steve has pointed out, u have made an effort, and I acknowledge this. i will allow people to reply with their suggestions and for you to gather interest, however, until Geo gives an answer either way, I cannot, and will not, permit any trading. I can tell u right now, Geo will be looking to see if your services will threaten the traders we currently have established. I personally feel it may infringe upon the development work that James is doing, but until Geo weighs in, I will permit market research. but thats it for now. Phil.