Tara I have just pm'd the trader rules incase no one else had. Can I ask which other thread people are referring to that we have shut down earlier than this one pm me if you prefer. I actually read the thread when it was still on the first page but seen as people were still trying to explain the issue and Tara was replying trying to understand the problem I left it running as closing looked as though it would slow down solving the issue. To clear up yes there were 2 moderators post in the thread one when the thread was still remotely polite and members were providing explanation/feedback. The 2nd moderator posted and the tread was closed shortly after. The thread did escalate very quickly and as James pointed out we don't all have jobs which allow us to be at a computer all the time, and we all have commitments outside if the forum. I have a 5 week old child but have been in talks with other admin for the last 2 days discussing ways to help mediate and help being resolution to the issue, but bridges are quickly burned especially when trust is broken. Rob