running 1bar on standard management (keirz old glanza)

[EP-Azz]

Hi all

Surely if I upped the boost to 1bar on standard management, used an fcd and dawes device to set at 1bar, the fueling would be fine because the map sensor reads to 1.2bar? Am I right

[Addymk2]

Correct me if I'm wrong here but wouldn't that run lean on boost?

The FCD just fools your ECU into thinking its running less boost than it is.

[keirz]

would go bang! Chuck an fpr in there and get the fueling checked is the only way to be safe. Management would still be better but lots of people go fpr and fcd. Not for me but each to there own

[EP-Azz]

But would it need the fpr? Because if the map sensor reads to 1.2 bar the ecu can provide the right amount of fuel? Im just thinking of a cheaper way im not letting this beast die keirz trust me lol

[Addymk2]

The map sensor would read that high if the FCD wasn't fooling it. The MAP sensor thinks its receiving 0.7 bar when it's actually receiving a bar.

[shorty]

But your fuel cut is .8 bar of boost so a stock map sensor never sees more than .8

[Addymk2]

Hi all

Surely if I upped the boost to 1bar on standard management, used an fcd and dawes device to set at 1bar, the fueling would be fine because the map sensor reads to 1.2bar? Am I right

No. You need a FCD and a FPR, sorted lol

[EP-Azz]

Ohh I get ya so the only way is a fpr? And Wideband

[daniel_g]

And a dude with a dyno to set the fueling up, piece of mind. Unless you wanna have a go yourself ? There is a HUGE thread ( argument ) somewhere on here with views on how to go about it with, WOT readings should be etc.

[daniel_g]

Think this is it, have a read for inspiration lol.

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[EP-Azz]

Gonna get a sard fpr with a fuel cut and take it straight to a rolling road, best way to set up on that set up ithink

[Liam_D]

Get management, really disagree with FCDs

[EP-Azz]

I will eventually but already got a fpr here so gonna run it safe first, will get a jam for it eventually I think

[davehart]

For the little gain you will get and safety all round of the motor why not get an eManage Blue, map it and your sorted.

[EP-Azz]

Yea I suppose! Lee what kinda power do you think it will push at 1bar? 180 maybe?

[keirz]

lol it made 196 on stock ct9. Have you seen the size of that hybrid. With a good map at 1 bar it will clear 200 without a doubt.

[ro55ifumi]

Management for piece of mind and mechanical sympathy is the way forward

John

[smobey_sutton2]

Fcd and a fpr, then check over on the rolling road will probably cost you about the same as an e-manage blue management and mapping! Do it properly the first time!!

[EP-Azz]

200 would be evil! Emanage looks good and simple for the price, do you still need a fcd n fpr with it?

[keirz]

no i dont believe you do, would be be great to see what it makes at 1.1 mapped on emanage. As said above, wait til you can do it properly to ensure its safe, wont cost you much more.

[Addymk2]

200 would be evil! Emanage looks good and simple for the price, do you still need a fcd n fpr with it?

No just get it fitted and mapped, you will however need a boost controller or an adjustable actuator, jobs a fish!

[ro55ifumi]

On emanage you would see a better mid range and there fore a better drive , it's not all about top figure ;) drop Tuning Development a line 550 fitted an mapped stock injectors and fuel pump will be ok on ct9

John

[pick1]

^^^ agreed tuning developments all the way for emanage

[EP-Azz]

Yea? Well ill have a spec r boost controller, set at 1 bar, but 550 is a lot IMO compared to fcd n fpr n a dyno

[Addymk2]

It will be more but it would be worth it in the long run, or go for the £100 FCD, £100 FPR (avoid the fake SARD jobbies on eBay) and a setup on the dyno.