glentwenty Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Does anyone have any throttle bodies for a itb setup?! Am realy keen on doing this setup but trying to do it as cheap as possible! Can anyone give a hand? Link to post Share on other sites
MARC MOSS Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Check my equation and I'm pretty sure everybody will agree... cheap+itb's+fuckingaboutwithfuelling=dead engine This is almost impossible to do without a proper map, it will run like crap and even if you can get it to start drink a shitload of fuel or go completely the other way and not fuel enough and destroy your engine Link to post Share on other sites
glentwenty Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Craig ran his without a map to start with and it worked, but if you think it's a bad idea then I girss I won't haha Link to post Share on other sites
maddox710 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Does anyone have any throttle bodies for a itb setup?! Am realy keen on doing this setup but trying to do it as cheap as possible! Can anyone give a hand?Everyone will tell you there is no off the shelf bolt on itbs it's all custom work mate, you have to buy some motorbike carbs and have them welded onto a chopped inlet. Then you'll need after market ecu to fuel it properly, stock ecu will fall over its own shoe laces at this type of stuff Link to post Share on other sites
glentwenty Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 I know you need to custom make it I just need to get the throttle body's to start it all off, I can always get a new ecu Link to post Share on other sites
maddox710 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Best bets eBay then Link to post Share on other sites
glentwenty Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Okay bro thanks Link to post Share on other sites
MARC MOSS Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I heard toyosports maybe able to help you try contacting them Link to post Share on other sites
Flynn Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 It isn't cheap as I imagine you'd need to go stand alone? Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 By the time you've faffed about, you might as well fit a 20v black top. Link to post Share on other sites
Flynn Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Come to the dark side lol Link to post Share on other sites
ROTABOOST Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) I heard toyosports maybe able to help you try contacting them Hahahahahahaha Edited April 1, 2015 by ROTABOOST Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Its doable on a budget just depends how well you want it to run. Some 600 throttles, small mod to the tps on that so fit the ep plug. Cut a n/a inlet and use silicone joiners To join inlet to throttles. Ideally drill and tap to fit a vac lines into each runner and port off to a vac chamber. From there run off to all vac feeds and include a pulse reducer in the map sensor line. Probably cost £2-300 and it should run fairly well. I think some lad with an ep80 ran his on a 4efte ecu but you could pick up a cheap E-manage blue and get it mapped and have it running sweet. Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 depends how smart/handy you are in making it kid and setup can be done on a stock ecu and a few ad ons ( you said budget tuning after all !! ) but if i remember right """ CHRIS GREEN """" on here is selling a full setup ready to bolt on might be handy Link to post Share on other sites
MARC MOSS Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Just do it and keep us all informed on how things go, like morgey said 2-300 quid should get you a nice itb setupGood luckIts doable on a budget just depends how well you want it to run. Some 600 throttles, small mod to the tps on that so fit the ep plug. Cut a n/a inlet and use silicone joiners To join inlet to throttles. Ideally drill and tap to fit a vac lines into each runner and port off to a vac chamber. From there run off to all vac feeds and include a pulse reducer in the map sensor line. Probably cost £2-300 and it should run fairly well. I think some lad with an ep80 ran his on a 4efte ecu but you could pick up a cheap E-manage blue and get it mapped and have it running sweet.Is that £2-300 before the cheap emanage blue setup and mapping yea? Link to post Share on other sites
MARC MOSS Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Sorry I don't mean to be negative dude but it's probably easier and cheaper to turbo your car Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Have a look through some N/a build threads.http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/84563-my-na-sr-itbs-update-20315/http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/76874-jims-second-starlet;-itbd-blue-sol-8l5/ Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Just do it and keep us all informed on how things go, like morgey said 2-300 quid should get you a nice itb setupGood luckIs that £2-300 before the cheap emanage blue setup and mapping yea?Yeah, thats what i meant, my bad Link to post Share on other sites
Chops Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) the name of the game for someone going itbs on the cheap is to make sure you feed the itbs with a big intake plenum, and not try and go with trumpet fed stacks like you see on oldschool stuff running carbs, cause that literally would be impossible to control without randomly leaning out and ruining your shit. do all the research before you even think about going for it! personally, id advise looking for gains elsewhere first anyway, like lightened flywheels or even a camshaft regrind! Edited April 1, 2015 by Chops Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 thinking about it. depending on if you went function over form you could do it off the cost of throttles £50 on ebay atm, silicone joiners £20, some barb fittings £5 and a bit of pipe. then just get creative with a vac pot. Could do it for under £100 if you used your old inlet mani Link to post Share on other sites
glentwenty Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 There is a few ae92 corollas at pick a part over here which I could get the itbs off them for about 35$ so like 15pounds Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 The ae92 corollas didnt have itbs only the 101 and 111. Link to post Share on other sites
glentwenty Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 really they all have the same motor in them though? Well there are a few 101s there aswell Link to post Share on other sites
morgey Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Ae92's have 4age 16v's with a couple of different intakes but both run single throttles.The 101's came with 16v and 20v 4ages depending on the model as some were supercharged. You need the 20v ae101 or 111 if you want the throttles. The 101 silvertop throttles were a bit smaller and run off of a afm. The blacktop 111 throttles are bigger and run a map setup. But you would need an adapter plate to fit both as they have a flange on the base rather than a tube like bike throttles. Link to post Share on other sites
Flynn Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 ^ Schooled haha Link to post Share on other sites
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