yeah but anyone with a starlet will know you dont need a big sub to get decent bass, for some reason starlets seem to take well to a reasonable size sub an amp, with no need for a hugh power one, i should know i had two tens and a twelve in my boot for 6 months an it was crazy!! a now i have a single 12 an am looking at going down to a 8 inch jobbie as the twelve is far too much. an by the way, ive tried a ported 12 before, an because theres not much sound insulation between you an the boot you can hear the bloody thing puffing away!!! did my head in after 6 weeks!!! Rich.