I had found a database with the weights of a whole load (thousands) of aftermarket wheels, thought it was pretty useful, and quite surprising believe it or not. Like I said in my post, the buddy club P1 Racing QF's are the lightweight editions. You get cheaper versions which are way heavier. Same with the TE37's I think?? correct me if I'm wrong? [edit] Meant to mention I've lost the link, I'll need to look for it again. [/edit]