Same way i learned my trade russel lol workin for your dad is not easy! We used to have some mad arguments. Mainly because its too easy to back chat to your dad than any other boss, if any of the other guys acted like i did toward him they would have been out the door. I was sent home with no bus fare, hours from home a few times rite enough Respect my dad for how he did things back then tho if i could change it i wouldnt have been so hard on him, i must have been a little shit at times. after all he put me where i am today