ashep91 Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 hi guys am looking for a set off red wheel nuts to go with my car i run ksport 6 pot brake kit with hub centric spacers 15" rota grids i have seen a few posts saying nuts like d1 spec are made from aluminium and can easily snap off not something i want when driving any suggestions for safe ones? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H_D Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 steel ones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ashep91 Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 Any suggestions on make and where to get them from mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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00joeindastarb0 Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 I got a set of steel ones from drift works there spot on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzy Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 RHD Japan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ashep91 Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Cheers guys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MARC MOSS Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/products/parts.php?f=2&lang=en Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SKINY Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Nuts4wheels.com get them on eBay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ashep91 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Am I right in thinking aluminium nuts are not safe and steel ones are Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Nothing wrong with alloy wheel nuts. I'v taken loads of wheels off and on with them on. No problems at all. It's just the idiots who tighten them up without a torque wrench! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ashep91 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Ah ok mate what torque should they be tightening to I run rota grid v but have hubcentric spacers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 103nm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ashep91 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Is that the same as the torque for the standard wheels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbo Grant Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Is that the same as the torque for the standard wheelsIt's the torque for all wheels on starlets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ashep91 Posted June 12, 2016 Author Share Posted June 12, 2016 Ah ok cool cheers mate very helpful Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 What Grant said. Nothing wrong with them at all. Infact for alloys its what you should use. Torquing them is more important. Plus if its down to that thread about the Zafira GSI then I wouldnt worry startlets use wheel nuts and not wheel bolts so the chances of that happening are slim to none and if it does happen its more likely down to incorrect fitment than shit wheel nuts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starlet__SR Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 What Grant said. Nothing wrong with them at all. Infact for alloys its what you should use. Torquing them is more important. Plus if its down to that thread about the Zafira GSI then I wouldnt worry startlets use wheel nuts and not wheel bolts so the chances of that happening are slim to none and if it does happen its more likely down to incorrect fitment than shit wheel nuts.So why dont manufacturers use them from factory? Aluminum fasteners shouldn't be used on high torque/load applications regardless of whether or not they've been fitted correctly. The tensile strength isn't there to withstand the forces acted upon them. And the above torque figures are for a steel wheel nut. Do you know the correct figure for aluminium? They use steel because it stretches and keeps the tension. Aluminum doesn't do that, it shears. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glanzanut22 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 So why dont manufacturers use them from factory? Aluminum fasteners shouldn't be used on high torque/load applications regardless of whether or not they've been fitted correctly. The tensile strength isn't there to withstand the forces acted upon them. And the above torque figures are for a steel wheel nut. Do you know the correct figure for aluminium? They use steel because it stretches and keeps the tension. Aluminum doesn't do that, it shears. The forces on wheel bolts are completely different from that on nuts. For obvious reasons. So the same rules can't be applied for both Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starlet__SR Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 The forces on wheel bolts are completely different from that on nuts. For obvious reasons. So the same rules can't be applied for both The same forces are still imposed on the material regardless. It's cheap nasty aluminium. Tell me, if its so good, why hasn't it caught on in OEM circles? Because nobody on their right mind would trust aluminium to hold on a wheel which is subjected to extreme longitudal and lateral forces. And lets be honest, what are you gaining from using aluminium compared to steel wheel nuts? A few grams of unsprung weight per corner, or is it for the bonus JDM SCENE POINTS YO! ??? Quite simply, cheap aluminium wheel nuts arent worth jack sh*t, they use steel for a reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glanzanut22 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) The same forces are still imposed on the material regardless. It's cheap nasty aluminium. Tell me, if its so good, why hasn't it caught on in OEM circles? Because nobody on their right mind would trust aluminium to hold on a wheel which is subjected to extreme longitudal and lateral forces. And lets be honest, what are you gaining from using aluminium compared to steel wheel nuts? A few grams of unsprung weight per corner, or is it for the bonus JDM SCENE POINTS YO! ??? Quite simply, cheap aluminium wheel nuts arent worth jack sh*t, they use steel for a reason. I didn't say aluminium was good. I just corrected you that the stresses aren't the same on bolts as on nuts. YO! 👍 Edited June 15, 2016 by glanzanut22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starlet__SR Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) I didn't say aluminium was good. I just corrected you that the stresses aren't the same on bolts as on nuts. YO! 👍 The wheel locates on the spigot, but all the torque is applied on the tapered seat of the nut/stud. Therefore, you're still subjecting either the bolt/nut to the same forces. Do tell me where the stresses are different?The only difference being is you'll have varying fracture points. Edited June 15, 2016 by Starlet__SR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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