Browner Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Well guys I am in the middle of a forged ep85 build. I have both of the above turbo kits here. I plan on going with the WEPR TD04 Hybrid turbo regardless and match it with either of these kits? I will be selling the one I don't use.What kit would you guys choose and why? I have never ran either of them but both look very good quality. I would be interested in material strength, spool times etc etc and how you find the kits in general.Here is the WEPR TD04 Kit: http://www.wepracing.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=128&Itemid=143Here is the Racetech TD04 Kit:http://www.race-tech.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_5&products_id=1Thanks,Conor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sammasson Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 If your wanting td04 hybrid go with tuning developments. http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic/61708-td04-billet-hybrid-300-turbo-from-tuning-developments-dyno-graphs-added/have a look at this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ro55ifumi Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Racetech quality piece of work and local to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JordanEP91 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Racetech quality piece of work and local to me X2 But they are not local to me!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Mike EP82 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 You won't beat Race-Tech for build quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevonGT Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 WEPR, Always used them and never had a problem. Awesome quality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Both quality brands... I run a Race-Tech kit and its excellent! Ricky gives you lifetime warranty too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JordanEP91 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Both quality brands... I run a Race-Tech kit and its excellent! Ricky gives you lifetime warranty too! Socks you have to admit its better than excellent ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Browner Posted March 12, 2013 Author Share Posted March 12, 2013 Yeah the Racetech kit looks well. I had a tiny hairline crack in the stainless which I had to get repaired and ground down again which kind of had me doubting it a bit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ali_legend Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 WEPR by what I've heard mate. All day long Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wickedep Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) we have not had a td04 manifold (or larger turbo manifold) or de-cat crack on us in the last 5-6 years!! not one... Edited March 12, 2013 by wickedep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iamlegend Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 any updates on my order been waiting like 20 years at this rate hahahaha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micky boy Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 any updates on my order been waiting like 20 years at this rate hahahaha Didint sacha tell you? he's posted it to my address? I told him i would take real good care of it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
har-vey Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 i dont like the distance the waste gate is away from the manifold on the wepr kit you posted a link to. i was led to believe that the further away the higher chances of boost spike. as for build quality i dont think you'll have a problem with either. both top bits of kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danb Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) spoke to a few owners of racetech manifolds at shows and meets, and a few have said they have cracked - in the end ricky has rewelded/fixed them.WEPR - a few of the early ones (talking 3-4 years ago) cracked, but i know sacha sorted the customers out - even sending a friend a replacment manifold free of charge, but not heard about any issues with the newere recent kits they produce.either which way, i think if you were to have any issues, both companies would resolve the issues for you. Edited March 12, 2013 by Danb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ricky@Race-Tech Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Are you sure on that? we have not had a td04 manifold (or larger turbo manifold) or de-cat crack on us in the last 5-6 years!! not one... Our kits use the industry standard pipe up until around 12 months ago. (not just in starlets, its what they use for Evo's, Honda's etc) This would crack if EGT's are too high. We have never had a manifold crack when we have done the mapping. That said we still changed to a material slightly heavier but stronger. We also have other options for more exotic materials but the cost is much higher, we've never made a starlet manifold like this as the cost is simply too high. Our new kits also have an option for a Billet wheel TD04, giving unrivaled spool and power. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ali_legend Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 I know the a mate of mine (on this forum) had a racetech manifold, took it out in 1 or 2 track days and it cracked.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steve-gers Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 WEPR stuff is highly rated for a reason. The wuality os second to none, I have had 3 different setups from then for a year at a time each and every one has been spot on with daily abuse. The material is thick and very strong and the welds are brilliant plus the fitment is very exact. I have no doubt at all that my kit will last a very long time and WEPR also offer a lifetime warranty. Spool is also good with them and the inside of the products are nice and smooth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike@TD.co.uk Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Naturally i'll recommend our kit too Info and some pictures are in our traders section, along with our billet hybrid. If you would like any info etc then just give me a shout. Cheers Mike JonesTuning Developments Ltd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 "My Mate had this and it fucked up" "My mate had this for 10mins and it practically fell off"sigh... Ive seen with my own eyes all 3 of the above mentioned manifolds crack...Now... Im sure there will be a reason for this and in some cases its not always the manufacturers fault... Hell, ive seen a BTCC touring car turbo manifold crack during a race event...?Have to remember your tuning a car that was never designed to produce over double the standard power output from the factory lol I can only imagine its not easy developing a turbo kit, and its certainly not a simple process to weld them together...However, all 3 of you have offered to fix for free, or have fixed the issues for free with a very quick turnaround... What more could you ask for from a manufacturer...? Your always going to get biast opinions on forums.... but personally, I'm happy with my Race-Tech kit.Your always going to get folks that have had good and bad expriences with everyone. End of the day, talk to each supplier and see what they say and can offer you So please, lets not have this thread turn into a slanging match folks! There all good turbo kits and there suppliers will all look after you... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ali_legend Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 "My Mate had this and it fucked up" "My mate had this for 10mins and it practically fell off"sigh... Ive seen with my own eyes all 3 of the above mentioned manifolds crack...Now... Im sure there will be a reason for this and in some cases its not always the manufacturers fault... Hell, ive seen a BTCC touring car turbo manifold crack during a race event...?Have to remember your tuning a car that was never designed to produce over double the standard power output from the factory lol I can only imagine its not easy developing a turbo kit, and its certainly not a simple process to weld them together...However, all 3 of you have offered to fix for free, or have fixed the issues for free with a very quick turnaround... What more could you ask for from a manufacturer...? Your always going to get biast opinions on forums.... but personally, I'm happy with my Race-Tech kit.Your always going to get folks that have had good and bad expriences with everyone. End of the day, talk to each supplier and see what they say and can offer you So please, lets not have this thread turn into a slanging match folks! There all good turbo kits and there suppliers will all look after you... Why would you talk to the suppliers for options? Surely they will just say there's is the way product, this thread is for opinions.Also he didn't ask how hard it is make turbo kit, he asked which one out if the two someone would go for, when I had my GT I did alot of research and what I found was that Sacha had ALOT less negative points being said about him then other companies. That's my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Why would you talk to the suppliers for options? Surely they will just say there's is the way product, this thread is for opinions.Also he didn't ask how hard it is make turbo kit, he asked which one out if the two someone would go for, when I had my GT I did alot of research and what I found was that Sacha had ALOT less negative points being said about him then other companies.That's my opinion Because the suppliers are the professionals.... why else?I dont know fuck all about metal, welding or making a turbo kit...So I wouldnt know what is best, but in my exprience, Im happy with my turbo kit.... But if it did crack one day, id like to know why... Rather then just flame on a forum Gathering Statstics from word of mouth and forums?It may be 100 people who own a WEPR kit havent mentioned it on a forum or dont even use the internet...? Obv not the case.... Hardly Watertight "Also he didnt ask how hard it was to make a turbo kit"Really? I can read fella... Not doing any harm to try and open peoples eyes who just slag something off because it didnt work out for them without realising the hard work that goes into putting somthing like that togther.... As i said before may have been a genuine reason for such a failure? As i said to summarise, there all great turbo kits and do the job very well, there also all covered by a lifetime warranty I think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starbuck Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Wepr. Past 4 years no issues. Of course peeps are going to be bias from their own experiences. Best thing to do is listen to the opinions and do some research to help make your own up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob_bower Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 My racetech turbo kit was 2nd hand and the previous owner (a good friend) used it daily and drive it hard. And it's as good as new. The main thing that would make me go racetech over wepr is there proximity making sorting issues much easier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wickedep Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 spoke to a few owners of racetech manifolds at shows and meets, and a few have said they have cracked - in the end ricky has rewelded/fixed them.WEPR - a few of the early ones (talking 3-4 years ago) cracked, but i know sacha sorted the customers out - even sending a friend a replacment manifold free of charge, but not heard about any issues with the newere recent kits they produce.either which way, i think if you were to have any issues, both companies would resolve the issues for you.we changed up our fabrication techniques, welding consumables used, materials used etc. this was 5-6 years ago and this is when our products dramatically improved in durability. all our manifolds are purged also which is a must. we did have incidents of cracking prior to these changes this and each and every customer was either refunded or provided with a non faulty unit. we were the first to offer lifetime warranty..i believe other manufacturers are doing the same now which is great we have many customers who use their ep's for cirucit/time attack and rally and so far our products have held up to the abuse. i dont like the distance the waste gate is away from the manifold on the wepr kit you posted a link to. i was led to believe that the further away the higher chances of boost spike. as for build quality i dont think you'll have a problem with either. both top bits of kit. we do not use remote w.gate location anymore mate..we changed that up a while back. now w.gate outlet is located up top near the upper radiator hose i've said this before..you cant really go wrong with any of the manufacturers on this forum.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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