scottieboi94 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 What is the best ct9 hybrid turbo to get? I have an ebay ct9 upgrade turbo atm and was wondering how much difference in performance there would be compared to a proper ct9 hybrid from a good manufacturer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MARC MOSS Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Tongs gt spec all the way man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottieboi94 Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 Whats the difference between my current turbo and a tongs turbo mate? and why are they good? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzy Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I'm about to run a blitz k1 on mine but there hard to find now, would go for tongs if I didn't have the blitz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottieboi94 Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) Ive also been reading that some ct9 hybrids offer more high end bhp and lower end torque. I want a hybrid that will give me better acceleration and hold a boost longer than the one i have at the moment, my current one loses boost in last part of the rev range, not sure whether thats dwon the to the turbo or boost controller. Edited April 28, 2014 by scottieboi94 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MARC MOSS Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 show us a pic... what is an ebay upgrade turbo? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottieboi94 Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-STARLET-EP82-EP91-CT9-UPGRADE-TURBOCHARGER-TURBO-/400252970814?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d30efa73e Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Thats simlar to the speedvision turbos. Its just a basic hybrid using a better wheel and ported inlet and ported wastegate. The tongs where developed over quite some time and pulled like a train tbh all the way to redline! The tongs td12 was a ct12 housing with td04 internals which was there ultimate hybrid but tbh tongs turbos dont come up for sale much any more as enzo isnt around and he was the retailer for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 The best CT9 hybrid is a TD04 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlancEP82 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) The best CT9 hybrid is a TD04 This man is right lol or go even bigger Edited April 28, 2014 by AlancEP82 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 This man is right lol or go even biggerBigger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Im yet to try it, but how does a tf035 compare to a ct9 hybrid? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shorty Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Telling ya mate tongs all the way and a td04 on a stock engine will get raped by a tongs hybrid on a stock engin. Simlar power out put but quicker spool n more torque from the hybrid haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MARC MOSS Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Ran my tongs at 1.1bar for years and she fucking flew... Around town td04 starlets were easy lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liam_D Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 If I had to choose it'll be tongs for me too. I've rebuilt loads of ct9 hybrids and tongs seem the best built. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzy Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Ive also been reading that some ct9 hybrids offer more high end bhp and lower end torque. I want a hybrid that will give me better acceleration and hold a boost longer than the one i have at the moment, my current one loses boost in last part of the rev range, not sure whether thats dwon the to the turbo or boost controller.I went through a massive sleeples faze of what route to go down, here is my answer the best route to go is external wastegate it will hold boost much better all the way but the problem is for the price of all this you can go TD04 but then it's reliability and little less acceleration a well set up ct9 will at least keep up with TD04 I don't see the point in keeping the EBC if your staying internal wastegateonly if you plan on external WG TD04 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottieboi94 Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) Is my boost not holding all the way through the rev range because of my wastgate then mate? Edited April 29, 2014 by scottieboi94 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jackkelly Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 My CT9 speedvision Gen2 eats td04's on stock engine's and also on 5E semi forged, have videos to prove. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottieboi94 Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 There a pretty good price tbf aren't they mate, is it about 300 for one of them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iamlegend Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 tdo4 packs so much of a better punch ct9 hybrid is OK but does not give you the kick a tdo4 does.... try it but you will soon want to go TDO4 seen it happen quite a few times... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimD Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Have a Tongs fitted to my car, although I've yet to drive it in anger. I almost sold it and went TF035, but in the end decided to give it a go. For what I need to use the turbo for, and the amount of power I need a hybrid ct9 makes the most sense, for now. I need 145whp, that's it, I could probably get away with a standard CT9 for those figures, but I suspect it would run out of puff before the end of the rev range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jackkelly Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) On a standard engine this is my opinion! Non forged anyway.Hybrid is ideal for a 1/4 mile set up IMO?.. There's minimal wheel spin in 1st gear and plenty of poke to pull you through the revs 2nd 3rd and 4th.I got 150 bhp and 184 torque at .6 bar boost! I'm now running 1.2 bar now and jesus christ it's a mental aggressive pull from 2,750 til 7,200.I raced a Tongs hybrid, both of us at the same boost, rolling in second gear from 3,000rpm til 160 kph and it was identical, considering my gear changes were slightly quicker I pulled on him but there was no difference what so ever.I got my full kit at a bargain, WEPR manifold, external wastegate, screamer pipe, speedvision gen2 hybrid turbo and WEPR downpipe.I raced a 5E TD04 semi forged boosting 1.1 bar 1/4 mile and beat him by around 6 car lengths, I was only at .95 at the time.Rolling at 40 mph in second gear a TD04 will pass you out mid way/the end of 4th gear but the rapid pull from 2,750 til the redline from the hybrid will outrun the TD04 because they lag down so much until 4,200 rpm.That's my opinion anyway.. Edited April 30, 2014 by jackkelly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottieboi94 Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Everyone is telling me to go TD04 but i don't want any lag which is the reason i want to stay with ct9, i dont want a td04 turbo that finally kicks in at the end of the road i want to boot it down :L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Try a tf035 like me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Have a shot or passenger ride in a well set up TD04 starlet and you'll change your mind on this monster lag that they have lol.It'll never be as low spool time as a hybrid CT9 but it can still be good, ie, 1 bar @ 3.4K RPM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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