patman Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I'm just wondering here why people like myself have acl bearings on standard internals when they recommend to change the acl bearings at 25,000 miles,? Which would mean stripping the engine again after a few years, but then don't really hear about the oem bearing set on forums, running 200bhp on standard internals with extra mods like fmic, fuel pump/fpr etc why would I need acl bearings and not just stick with standard oem bearings? Any advice here please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maddox710 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I believe the acl bearings are a softer compound of metal unlike the Toyota bearings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 acl dont last as long !!! i think its every 50.000km you ned to change them ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevonGT Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I think the acl's are oem but use different metals and design, with better oil supply. I don't think you need to change them at 25,000 miles, as they should last if the tolerances are good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 I'm just thinking though lads while my engines back out to put the oem ones in which of course I presume last a lot longer, I have no intention of going forge, I'm just trying to get opinions on this due to as you both say about the acl bearings, or someone to know for sure how much Bhp can the standard oem ones take? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5e colin Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 no i am sure acl states it somewhere to replace then after so many miles toyota bearings will go for 300.000km on a stock limiter and acl 50.000km or even a bit less Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevonGT Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I thought the acl's were more or less oem but had a tri metal compound so they could take increased load over standard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 If says 25,000 miles mate where as surly the toyota oem bearings will go for much longer, acl bearings obviously must be stronger hence why there good for forge engines? Devon mate I don't think they are oem bearings but am trying to find out myself so would be nice to know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wickedep Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 hey guys...i've always felt the oem bearing is rock solid compared to the regular acl's. i've never used the acl race series on a 4e because they are hard to find here, they are much better than the regular acl's. even on my car..running 2bar+ on a massive turbo..the oem's hold up well. this one time i used acl on my own car...i threw a big eng bearing..no other changes were made...same shift point..same boost..turbo..etc...just the bearings were different. i am back on oem bearing now. sounds like a bit of bro-science hehe...but just going through experience. thought i'd share... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Quimby Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Like wickedep, i am running oem bearings on my +2bar 5efte engine. I dont trust those fansy bearings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlancEP82 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Oem all the way them acl are like cheese Quote Link to post Share on other sites
amatthews45 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Who supplys OEM ones on here then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Quimby Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Id-workz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WallaceGlanza Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 You can get "King" bearings from the states for a good price... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevonGT Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 hey guys...i've always felt the oem bearing is rock solid compared to the regular acl's. i've never used the acl race series on a 4e because they are hard to find here, they are much better than the regular acl's. even on my car..running 2bar+ on a massive turbo..the oem's hold up well. this one time i used acl on my own car...i threw a big eng bearing..no other changes were made...same shift point..same boost..turbo..etc...just the bearings were different. i am back on oem bearing now. sounds like a bit of bro-science hehe...but just going through experience. thought i'd share... Which ACL did you use sacha, as they do three types? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 Great replys thankyou everyone I'm glad now some of you have said oem are better and your running much bigger power then me it's the answer I am looking for so while my engines out gonna put oem back in, I thought id-workz only sold the acl ones? As you don't seem to see the oem ones online anywhere or is there a site for them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 Id-workzJust been on id-workz mate and can't find the oem bearings on there only acl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Quimby Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Hmmm i was wrong, i am sorry. Then you have to go to toyota Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 No it's fine mate will go to toyota they seem to be a lot better then these acl bearings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wickedep Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Which ACL did you use sacha, as they do three types? mate i think it was Duraglide range. i cannot exactly remember. i have not used the race series on a starelt. hence cannot comment. we use them on evo/subaru and it seems ok. cant find anyone who stock them for starlet also (at least last time i checked). acl aussie wanted a minimum purchase of 50 sets to make a batch... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H_D Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 oem bearings all the way - they are made out of better materials than ACL and are designed to last much longer.I had my OEM bearings dipped in friction-less coating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
funny onion Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 oem bearings all the way - they are made out of better materials than ACL and are designed to last much longer. I had my OEM bearings dipped in friction-less coating. How much did that cost out of interest? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H_D Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 £180 to get them coated by arrow precision iirc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patman Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Does it have to be dipped in that stuff? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Does it have to be dipped in that stuff? No man. assembly lube or oil and your good to go, just dont leave the engine sitting for months before you fire it back up again. Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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