I totally agree with addy on the war thing in terms of training and things like that our army is the best there is and our special forces are completely untouchable, i also agree with who ever said the pilot is at fault, it is a war zone and is also dead air space as such its well known that anything flying through there will be likely to be shot down, and the force that fired that missile really cocked up but if those pro russian millitants were so interested in it that they are guarding the site then i dont think it was them who shot it down personally. Just my thoughts i mean why would you be so stupid when all the evidence like the gear to do it and all those peices points to you ??