Adam is spot on with the point im trying to make. like anything technology improves and due to that the overall result will be better. wether it be a turbo now using billet blades or an ecu with better mapping options or software. for the price they normaly go for you can save money and get a better end result. maybe only margonaly but better non the less. and yea its got features you may not need but id rather pay 200-300less and have functions i dont require than pay full wack and 6months later when i want to do more discover the features or support arnt there. The do work well im not doubting that as it is a proven fact but its expensive old technology FACT! If it was 300-500 then hell yea we would all run them but its not, its near on 800+ wich is a hell of a lot of money for an older ecu system.