lol. i'd best update my max power subscription then. we're all entitled to our opinions. i personally don't like silver Vs, especially early ones as im not a fan of 96 spec fronts, but then i don't like silver on any car, at all. we all have different tastes, thats what makes all our cars different and why our turnouts at JF and JAE look so good, as all our cars have nice differences / twists from our neighbours. i think my car has enough fans that i can handle a few folk not liking carat lights. makes no odds to me what folk think. plus, they are OEM, and hott, so yeah. what worries me more is that folk didnt know what they were, where is the general EP knowledge going on here! i think some class room sessions on EPs are in order. no one on UKSC should have to google OEM parts, i think we need our Wiki section updated for all to see! :p Phil.