Here we go again, i seem to remeber ruffling a few feathers the last time donations came up. I think paying is a great idea for members, aslong as its an option Although I agree with Hou that the costing needs to be much more transparent if people are going to pay. Geo, I think the hosting solution your on is very expensive if you are paying 600 for 2 months hosting. What is UKSCs monthly traffic? How many GB? What is its database size? I have quite a few Virtual Servers and from the information you have given you are paying over the odds. Fair enough, but if you want people to donate to run the club then you have to expect them to want the money to be used efficiently. Matt offered to host UKSC for free, but you say you'd want to move all your sites. You dont HAVE to move all of your sites. So why not take the free hosting option if its going to save you you ££££'s every year. Also if you want people to pay then they are going to have to offer them something extra, stickers, tax discs, discount, priority tickets at shows etc.