mini valver Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Just seen them don't no much about them I no a Lad that had a 560bhp cords turbo that ran these with no issues at all but that's a Vauxhall this is a Toyota people's opinions would be appreciated cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
funny onion Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I've got a set for an engine I'm forging. Not heard any bad reviews Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 Have used a set without issue in the past. Have heard of a set that still had a wee bit of the metal swarf still attached somewhere - but they just cleaned them up and pretty sure they still plan to fit and use them.So I would use happily I'd just give them a good check over.Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpikeyJp_68 Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) I beleive people had the same doubts about pec rods iirc but loads use them now Edited July 3, 2016 by SpikeyJp_68 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mini valver Posted July 3, 2016 Author Share Posted July 3, 2016 Like I say my mate had a corsa with some in running good power engine has done over 20k miles now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted July 3, 2016 Share Posted July 3, 2016 I beleive people had the same doubts about pec rods iirc but loads use them nowNot that I can recall.I'm pretty sure the 4e maxspeedingrods have been around longer than the PEC items.And maxspeeding haven't really had anyone at their price point. PEC priced straight at scat iircPhil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_g Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) Was speaking to an engineer today who has his own engineering shop and he has highly recommended these rods.Might have slated these in a old thread once... Edited July 7, 2016 by daniel_g Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karl. Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I will be using these in my 5e build in the next few weeks. I have also noticed that the reason you dont see any negative feedback is that the company that sells the rods usually contact forums where bad reviews have been posted and demand it is removed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
karl. Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 http://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo-discussion-14/my-china-turbo-maxspeedingrods-80546/ I know this is about a turbo but its still the same company. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ollieh17 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Always likely to be someone who would have a bad review somewhere though. Turbos are a pretty different kettle of fish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Not that I can recall.I'm pretty sure the 4e maxspeedingrods have been around longer than the PEC items.And maxspeeding haven't really had anyone at their price point. PEC priced straight at scat iircPhil Think he meant in the past people had doubts over PEC which are now considered a trusted brand and the same could apply to these in time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H_D Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Issues with PEC rods? 1st time I have heard this - been running them for nearly 4 years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Think he meant in the past people had doubts over PEC which are now considered a trusted brand and the same could apply to these in time. Yeah i got what he meant. just thought he was wrong. no harm no foul though, people can take the same information and hold different opinions. Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Yeah i got what he meant. just thought he was wrong. no harm no foul though, people can take the same information and hold different opinions. Phil I'm not debating that just your reply to the post mentioned price points and how long max speeding rods had been about for which was kind of irrelevant to the theory. I wasn't debating with what you said or trying to defunct your opinion just seemed like there was a misunderstanding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) I'm not debating that just your reply to the post mentioned price points and how long max speeding rods had been about for which was kind of irrelevant to the theory. I wasn't debating with what you said or trying to defunct your opinion just seemed like there was a misunderstanding.No misunderstanding AfaikThe timescale seemed quite important to me. Given that the theory relates to a product being accepted over a period of time. This particular product is quite dissimilar to the model of PEC by all accounts.PEC immediate uk frontage from an existing company who added 4e rods to their existing product range just a few years ago - versus - maxspeedingrods who have sold cheap Chinese forgings for a long time direct from factory in China. I personally ran a set and made good numbers with them the guts of ten years ago.All of the above may stil seem as irrelevant to you as the prices point note previous, but just sticking info out there no obligation for any or everyone to grasp or care for its significance.This a forum, we are in a topic regarding maxspeeding rods and I'm not aiming to pick holes but rather add to the discussion, what you are adding I've no idea, bar your attempt to clear up a contrived / non existent misunderstanding.No point in someone coming here and thinking that Maxspeeding and PEC are on a par. Or that any moment maxspeeding are about to prove themselves of a comparable quality, they have been around longer and still send stuff out that could knacker your new forged engine if you weren't careful. (Last swarf locally noticed just a couple of months back)At the same time if you buy/visually inspect yourself weight/balance and make no assumptions they can be a cost effective part. And one that I'd happily buy and use again.Phil Edited July 8, 2016 by Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StuDoc 72 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) No misunderstanding AfaikThe timescale seemed quite important to me. Given that the theory relates to a product being accepted over a period of time. This particular product is quite dissimilar to the model of PEC by all accounts.PEC immediate uk frontage from an existing company who added 4e rods to their existing product range just a few years ago - versus - maxspeedingrods who have sold cheap Chinese forgings for a long time direct from factory in China. I personally ran a set and made good numbers with them the guts of ten years ago.All of the above may stil seem as irrelevant to you as the prices point note previous, but just sticking info out there no obligation for any or everyone to grasp or care for its significance.This a forum, we are in a topic regarding maxspeeding rods and I'm not aiming to pick holes but rather add to the discussion,what you are adding I've no idea, bar your attempt to clear up a contrived / non existent misunderstanding.No point in someone coming here and thinking that Maxspeeding and PEC are on a par. Or that any moment maxspeeding are about to prove themselves of a comparable quality, they have been around longer and still send stuff out that could knacker your new forged engine if you weren't careful. (Last swarf locally noticed just a couple of months back)At the same time if you buy/visually inspect yourself weight/balance and make no assumptions they can be a cost effective part.And one that I'd happily buy and use again.Phil Mate what are you even talking about!? Your literally imagining a debate that isnt there. I started my sentence saying I'm not debating, so I'd rather not be dragged into a ridiculous arguement over nothing. Edited July 11, 2016 by StuDoc 72 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martingdavies1985 Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Mate of mine used these in his 540bhp gt four no issues at all, hard launching at 5k rev limit at 9250 so wouldn't worry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Mate what are you even talking about!? Your literally imagining a debate that isnt there. I started my sentence saying I'm not debating, so I'd rather not be dragged into a ridiculous arguement over nothing.I was putting 'your wrong for a multitude of reasons' in the nicest way possible. And with enough explaination so that if you cared or could understand, you would.There is certainly no debate or arguement about the product.Still hold the record for hp on td04 at 1bar to I think.Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I saw this on eBay.They are at least half the price of usual forged Rods.So I thought they were 'cheap chinese crap'Good to hear they are not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richardc9052 Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Not everything from china is crap but you have to wade through the crap to find whats good. Some real bargains out there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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