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4efe SWAP to 4efte in Corolla E11 1998

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2 hours ago, Sam44 said:

Sorry about delay on the information, I'm at a very important stage of my work and it's taking all my attention. I'll get you the info required this weekend. 

No worries. Take your time  When I collect the last details I can plan to swap with my mechanic and finally find the engine and the extra parts you suggested.

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On 10/8/2020 at 5:01 PM, Sam44 said:

 

I have a wiring diagram here that provides the additional wiring and ECU pin outs to make a harness that will plug and play to the ep82 4efte factory ems unit with some pin swaps


a few questions I still need answers to 

Don’t forget to give me this info to add the my swap project.do I need to replace the 4efe gearbox clutch to the 212 mm you suggested when swapping tto the 4efte? DoI have modify the 4efte manifold and turbo down-pipe to avoid hitting the Corolla crossmembers? How? How do I have to modify the 4efte front and rear mount to fit in and fit the 4efe gearbox? How will I adapt the  4efe inlet to the 4efte throttlebody? How will I move the 4efe air box sensor th the 4efte throttlebody? Where exactly should it go? Ho will I adapt the 4efe electronic ignition system to the 4efte engine and how will it run with the 4efte ECU I will install with the new engine? Any pictures and diagrams to make it happen smoothly? How will I adapt the 4efe steering wheel to fit oil channel to the turbo etc? 

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my approach for the best & cheapest 4efte swap into a e11 corolla. for good reliable power of around 190hp 

parts needed:

complete 4efte engine out of a later glanza 98 model, with all attachments, inlet, exhaust+turbo, flywheel, and much better ct9b turbo. use all the engine mounts and bracket off the e11 4efe fitted to the 4efte (this should be only 1x engine mount on the right side chassis member all the others are attached to the e11 gearbox and will not need touching.  

212mm gt turbo/glanza/toyota (original clutch unit will take around 200hp). 

new 4efe e11 oil pump and seals, including the  crank front main oil seal  fitted to the 4efte engine before install with new cam belt if required. 

crank rear main oil seal. (serviceable item, they go hard after a certain period of time) 

acl standard size big end bearing kit. (tuning developments sell these high load bearing that are a must for today's fast dyno ecu mappers )  

4efte decat pipe section of the exhaust.

full aftermarket exhaust system. 

aftermarket fuel pump (walbro).

aftermarket piggyback ecu. like the ecu master det3 or aem unit. some of these piggy backs are designed for N/A or turbo use, so make sure you get the correct 1, also some of these have an additional pwm control table (built in boost control) all you need is a pwm valve wired into the control unit.   

universal intercooler piping kit, intercooler core to fit the e11. 

hks ct9 adjustable turbo actuator. 

air filter and piping. 

parts i would get but not required: a good electronic boost controller, boost gauge, exhaust gas temp gauge. 

 

parts that will require fabrication:

the piggy back control unit wires into the 4efe engine loom requiring around 6 wires. (no 4efte ecu or loom required). the dizless e11 system and ems is far better/faster than the 4efte distributor type.  

e11 4efe inlet manifold to house the 4efte inlet temp sensor or the 4efe original inlet temp sensor. (if the 4efte sensor is going to be used the plug for the sensor will be needed).  keep the 4efe throttle body, this will hit the required 190hp. 

4efte lower power steering bracket/mount to house the 4efe e11 power steering pump. 

4efte decat pipe, to avoid the e11 front engine mount and front to rear engine mount support beam/cross-member. 

full exhaust system 2.5inch to 3inch with high-flow cat for the best performance.  

extended lamba sensor wiring to reach to the new decat pipe position. (use the e11 original lamba/o2 sensor). 

ill put up detailed info of how id carry out all of the above modes. there should be no other plug swaps required. all other 4efe sensors will just swap into the 4efte engine and work fine. i will also put up info of how to wire in the det3 piggy back. 

universal inter-cooler pipe kit cut to size and cleaned out before use. 

mount inter-cooler core. 

porting the exhaust manifold out.

porting/opening up the ct9b waste gate port.

air filter kit and piping. 

things ill have to look further into on this swap. 

the 4efte distributor/head mounting point, is there a cap/cover on the 4efe e11 to blank this off and mount the dizless coils in the distributors place.

i could do with you having a look here on yours to answer this question please. 

 

EVERYTHING ELSE WILL SWAP OVER AND TAKE THE POWER. 

ecu master det3 tuner how to wire into the 4efe dizless system. wiring diagrams wire colours and ecu pin outs to come.

 

how to install the 4efte intake sensor or the original 4efe e11 intake temp sensor into the corolla intake manifold. 

e11 intake manifold modded.jpeg

you can see the added 4efte intake air temp sensor and threaded mount that is wielded into the e11 intake manifolds plenum chamber.   

the sensor is a 2pin plug and can be wired in either using the toyota original plug or 2x small female spade terminals (speaker terminals)

the original wire will need extending in order to reach the new sensor position. 

 

option 2: the original sensor mounted into the same point  

this picture is how ive mounted the original 4efe ep91 plastic air temp sensor into the ep91 intake manifold. thew the manifolds are different the same approach can be used just mount it in the e11 manifold in the same place as the previous picture of the 4efte sensor. use sealant or and a additional sealing Oring.   

4efe intake temp sensor.jpg

inside photo

4efe intake temp sensor inside.jpg

picture of the difference between the 2x sensors, these sensors use the same resistance to temp operational scale.

difference in sensor.jpg

 

lamba sensor position in the 4efte decat pipe.

this pipe is bolted to the turbos exhaust side outlet and drops down the front of the engine to the exhaust system. 

decat pipe.jpg

another option here is to cap/blank off this port and leave the lamba sensor unplugged leaving the ems ecu to run in open loop, but a de-cated exhaust system will be needed, also the engine warning light might be on permanently. . 

also this is the pipe that will require fabrication to avoid the corollas front engine mount that is positioned and attached to the gearbox bellhousings front edge. this will foul the down section of this 4efte decat  pipe. 

 

the 4efte power steering modification. 

 

racket.jpg

this normally will come with the 4efte engine.  

this bracket will foul the underside of the e11 4efe power steering pump, and  the adjuster hole seen above does not line up with the e11 4efe pump bolt hole. the e11 pump bolt hole is around 1.5inch further in and also closer to the engine. 

the 4efte bracket above is required to be used because the 4efte oil filter housing steps off towards this bottom power steering bracket. this bracket gives the oil filter housing the additions room needed. 

now what i would do is to cut the bracket in the picture above so as to allow the e11 4efe pump to move freely and not catch this bracket allowing adjustment (it stops the pumps belt to be removed/replaced, so downwards movement). were the cut is required is at the tip of the adjustment hole you can see in the picture above. around 1inch from the tip of the adjustment hole (just anuff to remove/replace the belt). 

this allows the e11 pump anuff room to move to remove/replace the belt when required. 

now an additional bracket is needed to be made/fabricated (very simple) in order to line up the e11 4efe pump hole with this 4efte adjustment bracket hole. 

this is a 3inch in length peace of inch wide flat steel bar with 1x 12mm hole at either end (2xholes in total) now welde 2x 12mm nuts together, now wield them to the flat bar inline with 1 of the drilled 12mm holes (so when a bolt is fitted/screwed into the 12mm bolts it passes threw the hole in the flat bar)

now bolt it all together the nut/nuts end of the flat bar bracket attaches to the rear face (oil filter side) of the 4efte bracket in the picture above, the 2x wielded nuts and the bar take up the space needed to alight the new flat bar bracket with the e11 4efe power steering pump. 

fit the belt, have the new bracket (flat bar) fitted, but loose, place a heal bar under the pump so as to pri it upwards and put tension onto the belt, now just tighten up the new bracket bolts at either end.    

 IF YOU COULD GET PICTURES OF THIS PROCESS TAKEN IT WILL HELP THE LADS DOING 4EFE+T CONVERTIONS ON THERE UK EP91 EP80.

THIS ALSO WORKS ON THESE 4EFE VEHICLES/FACTORY POWER STEERING PUMPS. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Sam44 said:

this is the pipe that will require fabrication

This is the original 4efte pipe? How will I have to fabricate the modified pipe? Isn’t there any on the market? Any drawing or measures?

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14 hours ago, Sam44 said:

the 4efte distributor/head mounting point, is there a cap/cover on the 4efe e11 to blank this off and mount the dizless coils in the distributors place

Should I send you another picture for the corner or this is enough? Is the cap cover the plastic boxes on the side?

i found this  maybe it helps 

 

Starlet Glanza V 1998 4efte

http://www.japan-parts.eu/toyota/jp/1998/starlet/ep91-agmqy/4_121150_006_/tool-engine-fuel/1901_ignition-coil-spark-plug

 Corolla E11 1998 4efe

http://www.japan-parts.eu/toyota/eu/1999/corolla-hb-lb/ee111r-agmdkw/3_153540_038_/tool-engine-fuel/1901_ignition-coil-spark-plug

 

E0B39338-9AAC-4EC6-BFDE-223078E584EE.jpeg

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10 hours ago, Frankieflowers said:

This is the original 4efte pipe? How will I have to fabricate the modified pipe? Isn’t there any on the market? Any drawing or measures?

rather that it droping straight down it will have to bend back on itself  by around  45 deg then drop straight down. this pipe is only a small diameter, some of these are quite a large diameter. with this pipe being quite small you might get away with just cutting away some of the cross member lip/edge. 

this is not the 4efte original pipe. the original pipe is a catalytic converter which will defiantly not fit in. this is the aftermarket decat pipe.   

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10 hours ago, Frankieflowers said:

Should I send you another picture for the corner or this is enough? Is the cap cover the plastic boxes on the side?

i found this  maybe it helps 

 

Starlet Glanza V 1998 4efte

http://www.japan-parts.eu/toyota/jp/1998/starlet/ep91-agmqy/4_121150_006_/tool-engine-fuel/1901_ignition-coil-spark-plug

 Corolla E11 1998 4efe

http://www.japan-parts.eu/toyota/eu/1999/corolla-hb-lb/ee111r-agmdkw/3_153540_038_/tool-engine-fuel/1901_ignition-coil-spark-plug

 

E0B39338-9AAC-4EC6-BFDE-223078E584EE.jpeg

yep thanks. it does bolt in place of the distributor and seal the head. 

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9 hours ago, Frankieflowers said:

Is the power steering pump bracket you mentioned part of the 4efte engine? 

yep it comes with the engine normally. 

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