Forged 4E against Forged 5E

[Azz]

Looking for another forged engine and having a debate with myself about it !

What are the pro's and con's of the 4E AGAINST A 5E?? Vice versa

WHICH IS BEST ???

cheers Aaron

Edited August 25, 2012 by Azz

[Starbo Moorley]

From what i know for all out power 5e is your best bet, not quiet as revy as a 4e but more tourqe and better drivability due too the larger capacity plus 5e will help with turbo spool especialy with a big turbo.

Depends what kind of build your going for tbh mate.

[Azz]

Well it will be a road car running a big turbo, and short track use.

Minimal lag as.possible is what I'm after

[B11G KY]

What turbo you planning on running?

[Azz]

Not 100% sure yet but either a gr28/30 or a.custom duel bearing.

Either way its going to be a big turbo

[mattyD]

in that case 5E FTW ;)

What ever setup you plan to use td04/05 any vf series or garret etc a 5E seems as though it is far better in terms of making power/spool and just general pottering around town

[Azz]

Ye my home.track is Ty croes on Anglesey and its a.short track with a couple of 120mph+ straights but its lower down in the speed is where I need the power

[mattyD]

a 5E tdo4 will be what you need for that, savage power and no lag! would hit around 300hp or similar

[Azz]

Well I'm running a td04 now on a forged 4E and Im not that keen on it to be honest, certainly need a.better turbo and Im after more then 300bhp

[mattyD]

lol, fair do's! fuck it, get a garrett mate you cant really beat them to be fair and are becoming more popular for obvious reasons

[pick1]

What about a Borg Warner turbo there ment to be the nuts

[Bean]

5e no contest!!!

[maddox710]

Id go for a vf series turbo on 5e mate. Thats wat i wanna run in the future

[Azz]

Well there is the vf35 but what is the max boost and power you can get out of them?

[Browner]

5e for the win matey! ;)

[ro55ifumi]

Well, really struggling to see why you would need more than 280bhp on the road ;)

Mine punch's me forward at an incredible rate of knots

John

[DevonGT]

4E has it's just better.

[Azz]

Well, really struggling to see why you would need more than 280bhp on the road ;)

Mine punch's me forward at an incredible rate of knots

John

The money is not a problem with the build so.would you rather say 280bhp or 350bhp?

It's more of a statement for shows ect........

And since owning a ep I have always wanted to feel 2bar of boost in one

[Burny]

The money is not a problem with the build so.would you rather say 280bhp or 350bhp?

It's more of a statement for shows ect........

And since owning a ep I have always wanted to feel 2bar of boost in one

If money was no issue then ofcourse you would want 350bhp as opposed to 280bhp however i wouldn't wanna run 2 bar of boost lol

[Jamie1st]

Im sure Matt (WhiteGV) wont mind me saying this..

Matts - 335bhp on 5E

Mine - 272bhp on 4E

Which was quicker? Mine.

That was a 3rd gear pull, up to 5th gear about 150mph..

On a private road

I heard the 5E's don't like to rev as much

[grum-glanza]

5e all day long, more tourqe can run more power, can run a bigger turbo plus not one hundread percent sure on this only going on what my engine builder said that 4e's tend to warp or twist the block when you try to run big power through them 300+

[Ryan-11]

4e

[Blitz]

id like race tech and zisco to comment on this...

[starlet dude]

^{i run a 4e fully forged on td05 it pretty laggy but when power kicks in its unreal dont find it enjoyable to drive in traffic at all}

[Browner]

Jamie1st it will all depend on what turbo you are running and how the car is set up when you go head to head with someone in a 3rd gear pull. Every car is built for something different. I built mine for big power figures, consequently using a very big turbo which at times can be a bit laggy. My Glanza is running a dyno proven 383bhp but a well set up td04 will stay with my from a standing start until I hit 3rd gear and then it just pulls and pulls and pulls so you have to keep that in mind. Whereas on a 2nd gear pull if I keep the car around 4500 rpm I have more than a bar of boost behind me so as soon as I plant the foot I am gone, you just have o be careful nt to let the turbo drop out of the boost range or the lag waiting on it to spool again will slow down your pull