Kate Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 HiI have just fitted a tuning developments fuel pressure regulator and have had the car tested on a dyno. They set the FPR up at 3 bar which sorted the problem with it running too rich but just wanted to see what everyone else runs at? Also since I have fitted it, it struggles starting for a couple of seconds when cold... Do you think my ECU is just getting used to the fuelling being different? I hope this makes sense (I am not brilliant at all of this!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miib14 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 maybe still be a bit rich on cold start, which is causing it to flood with fuel and not enough air getting in, try putting the fuel pressure down a little bit more and see if that sorts it.i know that the coolant temp sensor also plays a part of the fuelling side, so may need to change that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 What other mods do you have? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kate Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 Thanks! I have quite a big front mount intercooler, boost controller, am in process of getting a fcd. The guy that I got the car from said it's got a hybrid turbo but I'm not so sure. He also said it had an MOT and found out that it was fake! Lol so not sure what turbo it has. X Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Try and get a photo up of the turbo. but if they are the only mods turn the fuel pressure back to standard at 2.4bar. I also wouldn't fit the fcd yet either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kate Posted November 11, 2013 Author Share Posted November 11, 2013 why wouldnt you fit the FCD yet? It was hitting fuel cut at .9 bar boost. I have turned it down to .8 and when I took it to a dyno the other day they said to fit that then I can get it all set up correctly? x Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobSR Posted November 11, 2013 Share Posted November 11, 2013 Because it starts leaning things out. Only fit it if you have the correct supporting mods to run above fuel cut. If you run 1bar on a standard manifold, youll start melting things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rmsnoel Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Is the tuning developments fpr a good one. Im after a regulator and after toying with ebay shite, hearing bad things about fse and fearing sard replicas Im stumped for a reliable regulator. Its only to run an na so dont need anything fancy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zeldoz Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Is the tuning developments fpr a good one. Im after a regulator and after toying with ebay shite, hearing bad things about fse and fearing sard replicas Im stumped for a reliable regulator. Its only to run an na so dont need anything fancy Why would you need one on a NA? The factory one is fine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kate Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 If it is on an n/a I wouldn't bother spending the money on a tuning dev one either then. X Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Is the tuning developments fpr a good one. Im after a regulator and after toying with ebay shite, hearing bad things about fse and fearing sard replicas Im stumped for a reliable regulator. Its only to run an na so dont need anything fancy I'm going to be buying a fuel lab one, seem to be the most favored and I haven't heard any horror stories yet. Factory ones are not fine on an N/A. I was having problems with my Tomei FPR and put the standard one back on. Drove 2 miles up the road and changed it back. The engine was definitely not getting enough fuel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zeldoz Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I'm going to be buying a fuel lab one, seem to be the most favored and I haven't heard any horror stories yet. Factory ones are not fine on an N/A. I was having problems with my Tomei FPR and put the standard one back on. Drove 2 miles up the road and changed it back. The engine was definitely not getting enough fuel. Out of interest, why are you changing the fueling on a N/A? Is it big powered? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 In my case, I'm running ITB's. I Noel's case, he is changing the AFR's and experimenting with different setups. All part of trial and error. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zeldoz Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 In my case, I'm running ITB's. I Noel's case, he is changing the AFR's and experimenting with different setups. All part of trial and error. That's fair enough! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Green Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I should also mention both Noels car and mine are running Apexi AFC's. The adjustable FPR gives more more to work with when setting up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EPnick22 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 try this, definitely isnt a fake, I have one now, after a couple people recommending this exact page to me http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-Genuine-Blue-SARD-Rising-Rate-Fuel-Pressure-Regulator-FPR-Made-in-Japan/151055253396?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18833%26meid%3D2738088648953350477%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D8556%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D261188445208%26 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kate Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Need help again. As stated I fitted a TD FPR a few months ago and I started having problems with it starting when the engine is warm. For instance I turn engine off for half hour then go to start it and it doesn't start. I've recently had TD have a look at it and they sent it back but said nothing about it (whether it was faulty or not) anyway, I fitted it incase they had fixed it and I'm still having same problems! Does anyone know why this could be? CheersKate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EPnick22 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Does it take more than a few seconds to start? Mine did this when warm too, i changed my fuel pump not long ago to solve another problem and now it starts within a split second every time, is your fuel pressure correct too? Edited March 3, 2014 by EPnick22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kate Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 Ah ok I might look into changing that. But sometimes it won't start at all and I have to wait a minute or two and even then it struggles. It's so weird. I am going to get a sard FPR and see if it helps ad if not I'll have to start replacing other things lol x Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EPnick22 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Take off the fuel line from the fpr to the rail and turn it over see if fuel comes out (get someone to hold.it with a piece of rag itll squirt out big time if the pumps working lol) my pump wiring was butchered by the plug aswell and sometimes it wouldnt squirt out any fuel from the fpr line Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Socks Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 The problem with going the FPR and FCD route... To run 1 bar of boost... Is your cant adjust the fueling progressively... The fueling doesn't want to change low end, when your running .6bar or 1bar of boost... But if you whack the pressure up so it fuels ok up to end on boost. its going to be too rich low end. Drive like shit... Sell the FCD and FPR... Get an E-Manage or Plug & Play ecu and the car will start perfect everytime! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TurboTobz Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 But having an fpr will aid the mapping and adjustment if your going to go with the emanage so either way that's a worthy purchase Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kate Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 I'm getting the JAM plug & play ecu so would I still need the FPR? Thanks Kate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzy Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I'm getting the JAM plug & play ecu so would I still need the FPR? Thanks KateI have ran my plug n play for years without a fpr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean_mc88 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Id like to know that as well because I have a jam ecu and ive heard you don't need an fpr with one of these, however, ive been told with an uprated fuel rail you need an fpr and im currently in the process of buying a zisco fuel rail with all fittings, hoses and SARD fpr. I already have a 255 fuel pump forged engine hybrid turbo etc. Also if you have a boost controller will he jam ecu manage to fuel correctly without having to change the fpr? As for the problem your having id wait to get your jam ecu see if that solves things Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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